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#461 Fred W

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 03:03 AM

...however since Yamaha came out with their recall switch this has become a "non issue" for 2nd Gen. owners.


Well, it has been quite a while now since Yamaha deployed their ignition switch recall. I, for one, was very skeptical that their fix was going to be adequate for all bikes, especially those where the owner had added any accessories that are run off of switched power. Having the key switched contacts operate a relay for handling the higher load of the entire bike (almost), as the "Brodie Relay" does, appeared to me like it was still a great idea.

But it does seem that the data (lack of any post recall failures) speaks for itself. If anyone has had an ignition switch meltdown (not just crusty contacts failure) on an "updated" Yamaha switch installed, please be sure to let the forum know about it.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:15 AM

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Thank you for the kind words, however since Yamaha came out with their recall switch this has become a "non issue" for 2nd Gen. owners. If you are a 1st Gen. owner that desires to update the ignition switch, I have given the information at the beginning of this thread to enable to build your own. I sold my last copy back in September and will not be making any more.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:16 AM

oldgun

Thank you for the kind words, however since Yamaha came out with their recall switch this has become a "non issue" for 2nd Gen. owners. If you are a 1st Gen. owner that desires to update the ignition switch, I have given the information at the beginning of this thread to enable to build your own. I sold my last copy back in September and will not be making any more.

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thanks Brodie for your easy to follow drawing. After 2 ignition switch meltdowns it was time to tackle the real problem your post and drawing was just what the Dr. ordered Thank You
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 08:42 PM

Brodie, are you still not making the ignition switch fix? Pretty sure my switch just crapped out, and it was originally replaced as part of the recall.


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Posted 27 May 2015 - 08:58 PM

Brodie, are you still not making the ignition switch fix? Pretty sure my switch just crapped out, and it was originally replaced as part of the recall.

Better send him a PM Hudson...this thread is an oldie! Good luck with the repair(s) and let us know if you need a hand with anything.

 

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 09:10 PM

will do. AuburnFJR has a spare ignition I can test out, but pretty sure that it the culprit.


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 06:02 AM

I'm pretty sure I have Brodie's harness that I haven't even opened since I sold my 08.  Let me know if I can help.



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Posted 28 May 2015 - 08:59 AM

Hudson

 

I haven't made one of these things for several years now, and I don't think I have all the components on hand. Your best bet would be to become very good friends with Diavalos and take him up on his offer. If it is an official yellow tagged recall ignition switch, you need to get it to your friendly Yamaha service department and give them the opportunity to make good on it. 

 

Bare in mind that my Ignition Relay Harness requires a properly functioning ignition switch - it will not fix a faulty one. All it does is redirect the high amperage switching into a 70 amp automotive relay where it belongs. The ignition switch still performs it's basic function to trigger the relay. 

 

Please keep us up to date.

 

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 10:41 AM

Brodie, are you still not making the ignition switch fix? Pretty sure my switch just crapped out, and it was originally replaced as part of the recall.

And what kind of battery did you install in the FJR my friend?


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 02:06 PM

Brodie, are you still not making the ignition switch fix? Pretty sure my switch just crapped out, and it was originally replaced as part of the recall.

 

I had the ignition switch recall done at the time it was first available, many thousands of miles ago.  No issues at all until a few months ago when the switch, on occasion, would not make contact without a little tweaking of the key.  Extra little movement/pressure back and forth of the key was sometimes needed.   Once contact was established and the gages etc. cycled, all was good.  With the motor running, contact was maintained even with some additional fiddling with the key.  I wanted to make sure there weren’t any issues with loosing power while underway.   

 

Then, one morning while preparing to leave home, the ignition switch was completely nonfunctional. (151,430 miles) No mater how many times I tried it, no contact was achieved.  Nothing!!!  The key functioned fine.  The switch was dead.   Thank you for the timing on that one for sure......

 

I ordered a replacement from boats.net and set about removing the brace and switch in preparation for replacement.   On a hunch, I purchased some (safe for plastic) contact cleaned from the auto parts store and flushed both the tumblers, and the switch, using the two opens on the bottom of the switch housing for access.  I did this a couple of times.  After waiting for everything to dry out I reconnected the switch and tried it with instant success.   Put the bike back together and have had zero issues over the past 2,500 plus miles.  I put a little lube back on the tumblers and it performs as new after many uses.  

 

Because the switch was on backorder, I was able to cancel the order.

 

Passing this along in case it might help with your issue.  

 

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Posted 28 May 2015 - 02:55 PM

Thanks MR/Brodie/Diavalos. I'll take Diavolos up on this offer to buy the switch, and MR, will again try to flush out the ignition but this time more thoroughly. My experience mirrors yours exactly, and it sure beats the $150 or so for a new switch, plus the hassle factor of rekeying.

 

Appreciate everyone's input.

 

Wonder if this is remedied more specifically on the Gen III, as the failure sure seems to be in placing all that current across a less than robust contact.


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