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#1 Smooth_Gary

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 10:03 PM

i had that cam chain noise,,so i took it in thinking i was still under extended warranty,,well it turns out that a 3 yr extended warranty is 2yrs plus the factory warranty of 1 yr,,bunch of shit,,anyway the warranty ran out in may,,they had the bike tore down,,so i told them to change the cam chain and tensioner $120 in parts and 5hrs labor ,,they owed me for an ignition switch i installed and the labor time it takes to install it,,which was $143 for the switch and 2 hours labor,,yamaha payed for the parts,,so i payed the $268 labor difference,,the noise is gone,,bike runs good,,but i cant see anything wrong with the tensioner,,and the chain doesnt look that worn,,i took the tensioner apart and it is a shitty method ,the spring n everthing looked ok,,,i am thinking either they wind it to tight n the spring breaks n it threads back in becoming loose,,or the spring isnt wound tight enough n the plunger doesnt come out all the way,,,it sounds good runs cherry,,no excess noise

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 10:54 PM

What is ,,, ,, ,, ,,,? Is there an embedded message to your sleeper-cell buddies in that post? rolleyes.gif

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 09:35 AM

QUOTE (Toecutter @ Jul 1 2009, 02:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is ,,, ,, ,, ,,,? Is there an embedded message to your sleeper-cell buddies in that post? rolleyes.gif


Toe,

Just be thankful the board software auto wordwraps, or we'd be looking WAAAY over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
to read the whole phikkin thing.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 09:38 AM

RH was hoping there was a time machine or something in there somewhere.
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#5 RadioHowie

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 09:41 AM

QUOTE (Smooth_Gary @ Jul 1 2009, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i had that cam chain noise,,so i took it in thinking i was still under extended warranty,,well it turns out that a 3 yr extended warranty is 2yrs plus the factory warranty of 1 yr,,bunch of shit,,anyway the warranty ran out in may,,they had the bike tore down,,so i told them to change the cam chain and tensioner $120 in parts and 5hrs labor ,,they owed me for an ignition switch i installed and the labor time it takes to install it,,which was $143 for the switch and 2 hours labor,,yamaha payed for the parts,,so i payed the $268 labor difference,,the noise is gone,,bike runs good,,but i cant see anything wrong with the tensioner,,and the chain doesnt look that worn,,i took the tensioner apart and it is a shitty method ,the spring n everthing looked ok,,,i am thinking either they wind it to tight n the spring breaks n it threads back in becoming loose,,or the spring isnt wound tight enough n the plunger doesnt come out all the way,,,it sounds good runs cherry,,no excess noise


Not sure if you're pissed you paid $268 or you're glad you paid $268 for the job. My eyes still hurt from reading your post. smile.gif

HOWEVER, if you're pissed, I'll make you a deal.....I'll send you the $268...you keep your new chain and CCT, and send me your cylinder head.

Ask me....JUST ASK ME...if I'd fork over $268 to not have airmailed 12 out of 16 valves. mad.gif

Oh, cam chains (and chains in general) lose more of their service life to stretch than to wear, so a cursory "look" ain't no yardstick to measure by.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 10:02 AM

what howie,,,,,said,,,,,
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 10:20 AM

I have never ever seen anyone put in ,, for period. Where did that wacko shorthand come from? I will let someone else bring up the capital letters to start a sentence issue.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 10:44 AM

I'll use my blunt crayon to add --

Chain wear causes the chain to become longer, misnamed stretching. There is a specific way to measure a circular chain for length and this is how you determine if the chain is at or past service length.

If your engine was noisy it was because the chain had worn and became longer, and the automatic tensioning from the CCT did not automatically take up the slack.

The CCT plunger starts life just under half way extended and over the life of the cam chain will only extend 1/4 to 1/2 inch farther. When testing the CCT, the area where you should have felt for uniform, strong force was from slightly under half way extended to just over half way extended.

It sure seems that there should be a better design for the CCT.

Consider what you paid to be an insurance policy against a potential $2,000 to $4,000 repair bill.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 11:25 AM

Why is everyone poking fun at Gary,,didn't you know that commas are smoother than periods,,noobs
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (kolonial72 @ Jul 1 2009, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why is everyone poking fun at Gary,,didn't you know that commas are smoother than periods??noobs


Maybe so, but they certainly are piss-poor substitutes for question marks. fuck.gif
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE (RadioHowie @ Jul 1 2009, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not sure if you're pissed you paid $268 or you're glad you paid $268 for the job. My eyes still hurt from reading your post. smile.gif

HOWEVER, if you're pissed, I'll make you a deal.....I'll send you the $268...you keep your new chain and CCT, and send me your cylinder head.

Ask me....JUST ASK ME...if I'd fork over $268 to not have airmailed 12 out of 16 valves. mad.gif

Oh, cam chains (and chains in general) lose more of their service life to stretch than to wear, so a cursory "look" ain't no yardstick to measure by.


Do you think, perhaps, a yardstick, or (this being a yamaha) a meterstick, might be a better measure of cam chain 'stretch' than ye olde eyeball?

Hasn't anyone on the forum volunteered to park their behind a dump truck so that it can be totaled (without having someone have to get into an accident, that we don't want) so they can get a new one with the insurance money, and you can get he head from their wreck?

There must be someone that wants, say, a color swap and has really good insurance that can work out some kinda deal with you. Are gen 1 and gen 2 heads fully interchangeable?
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE (ionbeam @ Jul 1 2009, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll use my blunt crayon to add --


Subtle, my friend. Effective, but subtle. thumbsup.gif


QUOTE
Consider what you paid to be an insurance policy against a potential $2,000 to $4,000 repair bill.


If you do like I've been doing.....letting it just sit there and collect laundry....it won't cost ya a dime!
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 11:42 AM

Another thread is about to take a left turn dry.gif

QUOTE (kolonial72 @ Jul 1 2009, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why is everyone poking fun at Gary,,didn't you know that commas are smoother than periods,,noobs

gary isn't the only comma guy,, old&slow is a comma guy too,,is this a secret club or am i missing a newfangled communication device or method that uses commas,,,

As to commas being smoother than periods, yes it's true, and here is the proof: Watch me



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#14 Smooth_Gary

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 10:17 PM

no i am not pissed,,,just an up date,,wow u guys r a trip,,,what kind of gearhead would pay any attention to punctuation,,anyway thanks for your insights,,

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 11:01 PM

Sheesh! Tough crowd tonight. Obviously the Period Key and the Shift key on Gary's keyboard are broken, so he was doing what he could to try to get his message across...

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 09:11 AM

Why are there so many critics on this forum, the guy is just trying to tell his story not take a corse in english 101. My dad used to tell me"when people don't measure up maybe it's time to check your on yard stick". JM2cents


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Posted 02 July 2009 - 09:55 AM

"not take a corse in english 101."

Or win any spelling bees. rolleyes.gif
It makes sense when you don't think about it.

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:34 AM

CCT replacement is way over-rated. Why you want to go and do a thing like that?






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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:41 AM

QUOTE (Vermonta @ Jul 2 2009, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My dad used to tell me"when people don't measure up maybe it's time to check your on yard stick"


This is what we call, making excuses, grading on curve or the dumbing down of America.
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:50 AM

Ah fer chrisskes didn't we just boot this punctuation topic in the ass a week or two ago???

Anymore I tend to ignore piss poor spelling/punctuation like the Skanky Bar flies Howie's always sickin' on me. blink.gif Jus saves me a ton 'o' frustration, not to mention money on Doc bills.


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