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[rockabill]

I will be heading over to ride all around the alps in July/August. I will be hanging out with some old friends in Grindelwald SUI for a week starting on July 25th and then I plan on heading out around August 2nd to explore the great alpine roads for the next week. I have started to gather some information about the rides/roads I will try to cover, but I could sure use some help in trying to plan the best routes. Any suggestions? Also, Is there anyone that will be in the area during that time that would like to meet up and ride? Or just meet up and have a beer?

Bill

[jcyuhn]

Sounds like a good time. Hope you are doing some hiking before leaving the Berner-Oberland. It's too nice not to.

There is actually a book of motorcycle rides through the Alps. "Motorcycle Journeys Through the Alps" by John Hermann. It's mostly routes and descriptions, but also includes overviews on what to expect in the way of weather, local riders, etc. I have a copy and recommend it - with the caveat that I've not actually used it to plan a moto journey through the Alps. Can't go wrong at the price of a book.

[rockabill]

Sounds like a good time. Hope you are doing some hiking before leaving the Berner-Oberland. It's too nice not to.

There is actually a book of motorcycle rides through the Alps. "Motorcycle Journeys Through the Alps" by John Hermann. It's mostly routes and descriptions, but also includes overviews on what to expect in the way of weather, local riders, etc. I have a copy and recommend it - with the caveat that I've not actually used it to plan a moto journey through the Alps. Can't go wrong at the price of a book.

Thanks jcyuhn, that looks like a great book, I just ordered it! I will definitely by doing a lot of hiking while I am there. I have stayed in Lauterbrunen and Wengen in past trips, and I am always amazed by the terrific hiking oppertunities in the area. This is the first time I will be riding through the area, so that will be a new experience that I am looking forward to.

[JR'SFJR]

+1 on John Hermann's book. He indicates in the book that Andermatt, which is just a little east of Grindelwald where you will be staying, is a great small town to use as a base and do day rides. I really enjoyed the town, roads, and mountain passes around there last trip.

I will be going back again in Sept. to ride Switzerland, France, + Italy, and I look forward to staying at Andermatt. There are so many good roads and passes, but Stelvio pass in n. Italy is incredible. Can't wait. Passport, plane ticket, and bike rental are set.

Enjoy JR

[orestes]

+1 on John Hermann's book. He indicates in the book that Andermatt, which is just a little east of Grindelwald where you will be staying, is a great small town to use as a base and do day rides. I really enjoyed the town, roads, and mountain passes around there last trip.

I will be going back again in Sept. to ride Switzerland, France, + Italy, and I look forward to staying at Andermatt. There are so many good roads and passes, but Stelvio pass in n. Italy is incredible. Can't wait. Passport, plane ticket, and bike rental are set.

Enjoy JR

Go to AlpineRoads.com for all sorts of info. And join their forum as well.

[rockabill]

Thanks for the responses. Anyone going to be in the area during that time that would like to meet up?

[Checkswrecks]

Heck, this is like saying "I'm going to the ice cream store, think that there's anything that tastes great there?"

If you get tired of the big mountains or want to warm up a bit, it's just a matter of which way the weather map says is dryest. That's actually not much of a stretch. Pick a goal a day and maybe...

Northwest around Frederichshafen and the southwest corner of Germany, or...

Southwest and into the French Alps and then the Pyrenees.

Or, if it's not too hot there this year (last year was a beast)...

Head south down the spine of Italy, or...

Southeast toward Prague and then along the coast to Athens,

or...

[rockabill]

Heck, this is like saying "I'm going to the ice cream store, think that there's anything that tastes great there?"

If you get tired of the big mountains or want to warm up a bit, it's just a matter of which way the weather map says is dryest. That's actually not much of a stretch. Pick a goal a day and maybe...

Northwest around Frederichshafen and the southwest corner of Germany, or...

Southwest and into the French Alps and then the Pyrenees.

Or, if it's not too hot there this year (last year was a beast)...

Head south down the spine of Italy, or...

Southeast toward Prague and then along the coast to Athens,

or...

Yes, I want to do that! .......and mmmmm ice cream


OK, OK, I got the John Hermann book and I am mapping out the passes that I want to ride and starting to narrow the trip down, but I am also leaving plenty of room to change things up on the run.

[BwanaDik]

Buy a copy of S&T's Autoroute also. It's the Euro version of Streets and Trips and seems to be really good.

Two places we visited were the Schilthorn resturant (From the James Bond movie "On Her Majesty's Secret Service) which has stunning views Schilthorn

and someplace that has a giant river flowing thru the middle of the mountain. The name escapes me right now but I'll check with wifey tonight. OK, just found it, about half way down the page. A must see!

TRÜMMELBACHFÄLLE

[Tyler]

Speaking from experience...

Panorama Pass - ride to Axalp and stay there... normally a ski resort so very quiet there during the off season and the staff treats you like royalty!

Panorama Pass (even prettier when you're there!)


View on the way up to Axalp


Road up to Axalp


Axalp




Sunset at Axalp




Grimsel Pass


Furka Pass - yes, that's really the road!!


For a tourist day off, check out Milan and see the Duomo there... absolutely gobsmacking (got that term from a Brit friend of mine)!


Stelvio Pass - you can see it zig zagging up the mountain






This gives you an idea of what the switchbacks are like...


Umbrail Pass (we had to detour to this one because the other side of Stelvio was closed due to rock slides - about 7 miles of hard pack dirt in the middle then smooth and creamy!)




Rush hour on Umbrail... we got stuck behind a tour bus when the car coming up the other way wouldn't move over to let it pass - we managed to squeeze through while they worked it out!


Timmelsjoch Passo Rombo (Italy)

[Checkswrecks]

Tyler -
I don't believe any of your photos. They all must've been PhotoChopped to remove the Dutch cars towing camper trailers.

That or it was just after sunrise before the campers are moving.

Seriously, you mentioned one of the things I've done, and that's to just take a map of where the ski resorts are.

Just follow your nose, as it's hard to go too far wrong in any of those areas and if you poke you'll find the little villages that make it memorable.

[rockabill]

Thanks for the great information and the amazing pictures from Tyler. I have just about everything planned out now, and I can't wait to get going. I will take lots of pictures and post a ride report when I get back.

[rockabill]

Just got back on Sunday and had a great trip except for waaay too much rain. I will cobble together my pictures and put up a ride report sometime in the next week.