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#1 Feejer/Weejer man

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 06:19 AM

2003: http://motorcycles.a...recalls020n.htm
2004: http://motorcycles.a...recalls057d.htm
2005: http://motorcycles.a...recalls055k.htm

All read the same: THANKS TO DEAN WOODWARD, MICAPEAK MAILING LIST

Defect Summary:

On certain motorcycles, an improperly designed throttle position
sensor could cause an intermittently unstable idle when the engine is at
idling speed when the motorcycle is stopped or during low-speed
operations. The engine could stall as a result.

Consequence Summary:

If the engine stalls after the operator disengages the clutch in a
low gear while riding, the rear tire might slip momentarily if the
operator abruptly re-engages the clutch. This could result in a crash
with injury or death.

Corrective Summary:

Dealers will replace the throttle position sensor free of charge.
The recall is expected to begin on October 11, 2006. Owners may contact
Yamaha at 1-888-88-yamaha.

Affected VINs:
2003 FJR1300R/RC All
2004 FJR1300S/SC/AS/ASC All
2005 FJR1300T RP07E-0002237-0003981
2005 FJR1300TC RP07Y-0000400-0000661
2005 FJR1300AT RP09E-0000873-0002293
2005 FJRI300ATC RP09Y-0000181-0000510

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 06:38 AM

So, is the TPS on the '06 better than the one on the '05? I know it is different, and probably more durable, but it it better?

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 06:45 AM

Wow, at this rate, we can expect the 06 throttle to be fixed in 2009?

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 08:05 AM

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Office of Defects Investigation



Recalls - Search Results

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Report Date : October 9, 2006 at 12:07 PM
NHTSA Campaign ID number : 06V371000


Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
YAMAHA / FJR1300 2003-2005

YAMAHA / FZS600 2004-2005

YAMAHA / XV1700 2002-2005

YAMAHA / YZF-R1 2004-2005

Manufacturer : YAMAHA MOTOR CORPORATION, USA

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 06V371000 Mfg's Report Date : SEP 27, 2006
Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 39000
Summary:
ON CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES, AN IMPROPERLY DESIGNED THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR COULD CAUSE AN INTERMITTENTLY UNSTABLE IDLE WHEN THE ENGINE IS AT IDLING SPEED WHEN THE MOTORCYCLE IS STOPPED OR DURING LOW-SPEED OPERATIONS. THE ENGINE COULD STALL AS A RESULT.
Consequence:
IF THE ENGINE STALLS AFTER THE OPERATOR DISENGAGES THE CLUTCH IN A LOW GEAR WHILE RIDING, THE REAR TIRE MIGHT SLIP MOMENTARILY IF THE OPERATOR ABRUPTLY RE-ENGAGES THE CLUTCH. THIS COULD RESULT IN A CRASH WITH INJURY OR DEATH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OCTOBER 11, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT YAMAHA AT 1-888-88-YAMAHA.
Notes:
CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIONíS VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.


This copied from the NHTSA web site (couldn't get the link to work and take you to the exact case in question). It's essentially the same info, but directly from the source. (you can do your own search HERE)

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 09:26 AM

Interesting - but the symptoms they describe are nothing like what I experienced as the TPS failed. Not until the very end anyway.

Wonder if I can just get a free TPS to install myself when and if the one I just installed goes bad in the future...

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 09:27 AM

QUOTE(GunMD @ Oct 9 2006, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE
Office of Defects Investigation



Recalls - Search Results

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Report Date : October 9, 2006 at 12:07 PM
NHTSA Campaign ID number : 06V371000


Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
YAMAHA / FJR1300 2003-2005

YAMAHA / FZS600 2004-2005

YAMAHA / XV1700 2002-2005

YAMAHA / YZF-R1 2004-2005

Manufacturer : YAMAHA MOTOR CORPORATION, USA

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 06V371000 Mfg's Report Date : SEP 27, 2006
Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 39000
Summary:
ON CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES, AN IMPROPERLY DESIGNED THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR COULD CAUSE AN INTERMITTENTLY UNSTABLE IDLE WHEN THE ENGINE IS AT IDLING SPEED WHEN THE MOTORCYCLE IS STOPPED OR DURING LOW-SPEED OPERATIONS. THE ENGINE COULD STALL AS A RESULT.
Consequence:
IF THE ENGINE STALLS AFTER THE OPERATOR DISENGAGES THE CLUTCH IN A LOW GEAR WHILE RIDING, THE REAR TIRE MIGHT SLIP MOMENTARILY IF THE OPERATOR ABRUPTLY RE-ENGAGES THE CLUTCH. THIS COULD RESULT IN A CRASH WITH INJURY OR DEATH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OCTOBER 11, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT YAMAHA AT 1-888-88-YAMAHA.
Notes:
CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIONíS VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.


This copied from the NHTSA web site (couldn't get the link to work and take you to the exact case in question). It's essentially the same info, but directly from the source. (you can do your own search HERE)



Well, isnít that niceÖ. Iíve dropped my 2006 twice, once on each side when the engine stalled while I was making a 180-degree turn from a stop in parking lots. The damage from those tip overs was over $1500, to replace the items scratched. I wonder if Mother Yamaha will compensate me for that damage.. Bet not!!!!!

Well, at least I now know I was rightÖ. The damn engine just quit!!!!!!!!! dribble.gif blink.gif mad.gif assassin.gif

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 09:36 AM

QUOTE(Last Chance @ Oct 9 2006, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(GunMD @ Oct 9 2006, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE
Office of Defects Investigation



Recalls - Search Results

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Report Date : October 9, 2006 at 12:07 PM
NHTSA Campaign ID number : 06V371000


Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
YAMAHA / FJR1300 2003-2005

YAMAHA / FZS600 2004-2005

YAMAHA / XV1700 2002-2005

YAMAHA / YZF-R1 2004-2005

Manufacturer : YAMAHA MOTOR CORPORATION, USA

<snip (recall info was here)>



Well, isn’t that nice…. I’ve dropped my 2006 twice, once on each side when the engine stalled while I was making a 180-degree turn from a stop in parking lots. The damage from those tip overs was over $1500, to replace the items scratched. I wonder if Mother Yamaha will compensate me for that damage.. Bet not!!!!!

Well, at least I now know I was right…. The damn engine just quit!!!!!!!!! dribble.gif blink.gif mad.gif assassin.gif

LC


Nope, our 06's apparently are perfect, since they have a different TPS sensor. They just have something else dorked up that won't be recalled until you no longer have the bike. unsure.gif
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 02:04 PM

From the NHTSA documents, these are the FJRs that are affected by the recall. Not all 2005s are affected.
2003 FJR1300R/RC All
2004 FJR1300S/SC/AS/ASC All
2005 FJR1300T RP07E-0002237-0003981
2005 FJR1300TC RP07Y-0000400-0000661
2005 FJR1300AT RP09E-0000873-0002293
2005 FJRI300ATC RP09Y-0000181-0000510
For example, as luck would have it, my 05 is not on the list.
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 03:19 PM

Good info - thanks Mike. I'll be calling to see if they'll reimburse for the TPS I already bought and had installed.
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 03:25 PM

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Year: 2005
Make: Yamaha
Model: FJR1300
Recall Date: 09/27/2006
Potential Number of Units Affected: 39000


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And... mine's on the list.
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 03:30 PM

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QUOTE
Year: 2005
Make: Yamaha
Model: FJR1300
Recall Date: 09/27/2006
Potential Number of Units Affected: 39000


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That's for all of the "campaign". 06V371000 covers more years and models than just the '05 and FJR.

Interesting nugget though. It might be possible to narrow down product runs if there are other recalls on different model lines.
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 03:55 PM

What do I need to find out if my 05 is on the recall. Can I use my VIN??

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 04:11 PM

I think this is a BIG deal and warrants a red flag, sticky and general announcement...But just my humble opinion. dribble.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif blink.gif blink.gif

I'm going to have a "conference" with my Yamaha dealer...as soon as I find out who he was/is..

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Yes, thanks Mike biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE(blueman @ Oct 9 2006, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What do I need to find out if my 05 is on the recall. Can I use my VIN??

See 4 posts above yours....there are the VIN's right there.

QUOTE(Last Chance @ Oct 9 2006, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think this is a BIG deal and warrants a red flag, sticky and general announcement...But just my humble opinion. dribble.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif blink.gif blink.gif

Exclamation point added to the thread. It will get incorprated into the FAQ's in the future.
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 05:00 PM

I'm in, and mine works perfectly. Mebbe I can latch onto a spare, if the dealer doesn't have to turn in warranty parts (most don't, unless they've been bad and are under audit). Good thread, valuable info on the forum, rare and wonderful....... tongue.gif
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 05:20 PM

Thanks for the info. I did not see my 05 on the list!

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 06:37 PM

Damn, not a list I wanted to make. RP09Y...000190, just 9 units inside the range listed. This will be an interesting conversation with my dealer Thursday.

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 05:58 AM

OK, this may be a dumb question, but should I expect a letter from Mama Yama abt the TPS recall? Or, should I assume it's my responsibility (read: I was born w/ this knowledge) and talk to my dealer?

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 06:17 AM

QUOTE(brazos parker @ Oct 10 2006, 07:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK, this may be a dumb question, but should I expect a letter from Mama Yama abt the TPS recall? Or, should I assume it's my responsibility (read: I was born w/ this knowledge) and talk to my dealer?

The campaign starts tomorrow (Oct11); perhaps Yamaha will mail out recall notices... who knows. You know about it now, so, might as well call your dealer and ask them if they are aware yet. Typically, dealers will be notified about it through Y.D.S.

Can't say I'm terribly happy with this, but at least they are conducting the recall.... both of my Yamaha's are affected. In fact, while it has never cut out on me, my R1 is displaying the *exact* symptoms described with regard to a wavering RPM during idle.... glare.gif

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:20 AM

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In fact, while it has never cut out on me, my R1 is displaying the *exact* symptoms described with regard to a wavering RPM during idle.... glare.gif

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