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#41 Bustanut joker

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 07:01 AM

Too the dissenters I say this....
Unless you've met this guy you really don't understand just how driven he is. The guy is cut from the same cloth as the old west cowboys. Tough, resilient, resourceful, and a damn nice guy. I look forward to knocking out more miles with him someday.
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Posted 16 December 2011 - 08:41 AM

Jim understands my goals and reasoning (Or lack of reason) better than most.
I selected the cert rides that would give me experiences that I thought would improve
my riding ability and let me understand what farkles I really needed to have on my bike.
I have MAJOR weaknesses in some areas. Just to name a few: Canadian riding, roads that
are not perfectly straight and heavy population centers ie: NE USA. and riding in cold weather
(Anything below 60 degees) :P
That is why I feel the UCCC is a must ride for me. I think the time I spend on this ride will
be a great experience. I am just not willing to blow 3 weeks vacation doing it. I want to free
up the summer for learning to rally.


Ahh, now I see. You're wrong. You have a '13 entry is what I'm gathering. The UCCC is not for you at all. Not to say that it would not provide useful experience, but it's far too focused on one ride's goal. Prudhoe Bay is a sucker bonus, at best. If you want to learn to rally and learn what you need for rallies, you need to ride in rallies. Don't piss away this time on one cert ride. Cert rides are EASY. You get to choose your routes instead of having them dictated by the RM and points.

Spend your time and money riding as many multi-day rallies as you can in '12. The NSR is a 100 hour format this coming year. The ButtLite is a 6 day format, the Ten 'n Ten is a ten day format. Choose your poison. If the NE is a concern, there are shorter rallies up that way like the Void, Cape Fear & Minuteman rallies. Do one or more of those and the NSR at least. Better still, add one of the longer multi-days to that. You have to rally to learn what works. Just going for a long ride isn't the same. It's not the same because you're choosing the parameters instead of being handed a rally pack and having to work within it's structure.

This is not to say that you may do just fine w/o more rally experience, but the UCCC isn't going to be as beneficial as multiple rallies and multi-day rallies will be.

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 08:50 AM

Ok, so now with some very PERTINENT new information - that you are planning to run the '13 IBR.......

FORGET about the UCCC!!! You have NEVER run a competitive rally before, correct? THAT is what you need to be doing. On an FJR, since that is the bike you will be running in the IBR, correct?

Seriously Tony, you have done some outstanding long distance Cert rides. You know only have a summer and a 1/3 to prepare for the biggest ride of your life - the Iron Butt Rally. Priorities, my friend. You REALLY need to start running one day and multi-day rallies for practice. And fine-tune that FJR and your bond with it.

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 01:50 PM

Ahh, now I see. You're wrong. You have a '13 entry is what I'm gathering. The UCCC is not for you at all. Not to say that it would not provide useful experience, but it's far too focused on one ride's goal. Prudhoe Bay is a sucker bonus, at best. If you want to learn to rally and learn what you need for rallies, you need to ride in rallies. Don't piss away this time on one cert ride. Cert rides are EASY. You get to choose your routes instead of having them dictated by the RM and points.

i'd have to agree with this. single-focus cert rides are fine for what they do but they don't teach the critical skills needed for rallying that you need (beyond gas-and-go and data logging). while rallying will teach you the same things that a single-cert ride will the same isn't true for single-cert rides wrt rallying. if you were talking about the '15 IBR it'd be different but your time is limited for '13.

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