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#21 Joe2Lmaker

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 11:12 AM

The piece you show in your post is not the broken one. The broken fitting is the longer one with the locking ring in the center,

Oops. Reading comprehension fail.
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#22 Charlie Hoss

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:56 PM

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Yeah, it's easy to get confused with the terminology of these parts since none are listed separately on the Yamaha fiche. Tim is sending me the part from England. Whatya think, can you make everything fit?
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:02 PM

Charlie,

There's an '04 pump on eBay right now (HERE) for $140.

Considering what these things go for new, that's not a bad price at all. Considering the hell you're going through, it could be a quick way out of your problem. And since all you need is the base flange, you could probably sell the rest of the pump back to someone on the forum fairly easily.



Thanks RH, I've been looking at that as my next option.
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#24 RossKean

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 03:01 AM

HYCLE was parting out JB's bike as described in This Thread. It was a 2005 Gen I and I didn't see whether the tank and fuel pump were gone. Might be worth checking. It might solve both the tank and pump problem for a reasonable cost if it hasn't been sold.

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#25 Joe2Lmaker

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:44 AM


Oops. Reading comprehension fail.

Yeah, it's easy to get confused with the terminology of these parts since none are listed separately on the Yamaha fiche. Tim is sending me the part from England. Whatya think, can you make everything fit?

I believe I understand the terminology. I used to maintain and repair molds which made similar parts for Walbro. (hence the moniker "Joe-Toolmaker")

I thought I read "fittings" instead of "fitting".
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#26 Charlie Hoss

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 06:20 AM

HYCLE was parting out JB's bike as described in This Thread. It was a 2005 Gen I and I didn't see whether the tank and fuel pump were gone. Might be worth checking. It might solve both the tank and pump problem for a reasonable cost if it hasn't been sold.


HYCLE said the pump was gone. Thanks Ross
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:12 AM

Part on its way to you, hope you can make some use of it.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:37 AM

Part on its way to you, hope you can make some use of it.



Thanks, Tim. I certainly appreciate your generosity.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:00 PM

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:12 PM

I got the fuel pump flange from Tim in England, yesterday. Jeez, that was quick. I was able to remove the return line fitting from my old broken flange pretty easily. Took both flanges to a gunshop/machinist a couple houses up the street. He thinks he can do the machining necessary to adapt the fitting to the flange that Tim sent me. I should know in a day or two.

Meanwhile, I packed up my sad looking tank, along with both side bag covers and the right hand fairing and sent them off for some GARAULD magic. I removed the hinge pins from the bags instead of drilling out the poprivets. It was also relatively easy. I didn't recall the member who posted about the hinge removal, but thanks. Also a really sincere thanks to fudgejerkin1188 for his generosity by sending me the flange. If this all works out it will save me a bunch of beer money over buying a complete pump. THANKS TIM.

I checked with a local business that has a UPS acct, without weighing the boxes, he thought it might cost as much as $150 to ship due to the large packages and fuel surcharges, etc, he suggested I try a UPS Store since they do much more volume and would have better rates. Thinking they wouldn't be THAT much better, I went to the trusty old Post Office. They shipped them to Garauld in 2 days for $62. More later.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:37 AM

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:57 PM

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OH, yeah. I think the pump is going to be OK. A machinist couldn't get it bored out around the "fingers" that hold in the fuel return fitting, the drill grabbed them and broke them mostly off, so he glued it in place with an alleged fuel proof epoxy. I don't know exactly what he used and I'm not sure it will withstand a lifetime of soaking in gas,so I found a slightly tapered spring that fit over the fitting snugly and I pushed it down over the part that protrudes inside the flange to hold it in place in case the epoxy fails sometime. It should hold it in place and it is sealed by a Viton o-ring. Got the pump reassembled and am waiting for my tank and some other plastic to get back from refinishing by Garauld. They should arrive tomorrow or Thursday. Hope I can remember where everything goes after a lot of down time.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:08 PM

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#34 Charlie Hoss

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 03:04 PM

Just to finish out this thread, the pump is back in the tank, all parts are back from Garauld and looking good, reinstalled twice after going after a ground wire problem, everything is back together, running perfectly and ready for NAFO. Thanks for all the interest and assistance with this, especially Fudgejerkin1188 who was kind enough to send me the necessary fuel pump part all the way from England.
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Previously owned:
'88 Venture Royale, '82 CBX (wish I had that bad boy back!), '80 XS1100, '76 Wing, '70 CB750, '70 KAW MachIII, '58 (?) 250 Harley Sprint, '57 175 DKW, '60 Sears CruiseAire.
Current: '75 RD200, '86 500 Shadow, just added-07 ZX14.