
Starter
#1
Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:31 AM
#2
Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:15 PM
#3
Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:28 PM
11 volts sounds low to me, I would try another battery first. Plus, I could be mistaken but don't you have to drop the engine to get to the starter? That could be a huge PITA
No. You don't have to drop the engine. But you do have to remove the airbox and throttlebodies. Clicky.
11 volts under load may not be low. What kind of load are you putting on it? 8 volts while cranking is low.
Odd for a starter to go that quickly, but anything is possible. Start looking for a cheap one on ebay.......
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#4
Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:33 PM
I went through this in 2009, didn't measure cranking draw (because it pegged my 160-amp meter,) but had no-load draw of over 80 amps. Which by the way, is about what it should draw cranking the engine.
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#5
Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:49 PM
#6
Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:43 PM

If it's pulling that much current, then it's no good, or you have some really lousy connections somewhere.
I tested no-load on mine by removing it, bolting it to the frame rail by the tool tray, reconnecting electricals and hitting the starter button. Like I said, over 80 amps no-load, when it should be around 30 or 35.
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#7
Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:51 PM
Kinda doesn't matter what you feel like, does it?
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If it's pulling that much current, then it's no good, or you have some really lousy connections somewhere.
I tested no-load on mine by removing it, bolting it to the frame rail by the tool tray, reconnecting electricals and hitting the starter button. Like I said, over 80 amps no-load, when it should be around 30 or 35.
Hey Walt. Well, for the first time I have been reading your starter thread. I am about half way through. I see from the dates that I was out running the 09 Iron Butt Rally which is why I have never read it before. Just one thing I want to clarify you poor bastard - at least on Gen I FJRs, you don't have to remove the fuel rail or disconnect all the coolant connections. When I did mine, I just removed the throttlebody and moved it out of the way with fuel rail and coolant stuff still connected.
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FJR#6 - 2014 FJR1300 ES





#8
Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:17 PM
#9
Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:53 PM
Hey Walt. Well, for the first time I have been reading your starter thread. I am about half way through. I see from the dates that I was out running the 09 Iron Butt Rally which is why I have never read it before. Just one thing I want to clarify you poor bastard - at least on Gen I FJRs, you don't have to remove the fuel rail or disconnect all the coolant connections. When I did mine, I just removed the throttlebody and moved it out of the way with fuel rail and coolant stuff still connected.
I'm not Walt, but I DID have breakfast with him 2 Sundays ago, and yes, you can move the fuel rail attached to the TBs without pulling it off.
To the OP, once you get all the crap outta the way, there are only 2 dinky little hex bolts holding the starter in. It's easy-peasy to get out.....once the wreckage of the Edmund Fitzgerald out of the way.

#10
Posted 06 April 2012 - 03:28 AM
Waiting for some of Howies informative pics. Or maybe he's busy coloring eggs.



#11
Posted 06 April 2012 - 04:46 AM

#12
Posted 06 April 2012 - 06:59 AM
And the resultant hatchling...

Ye gads!!!
#13
Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:29 PM



#14
Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:32 PM
I benched it again at home off my truck battery.....38 amps instead of 175 amps. Took me a little longer going back together. The intake valves and runners were very clean. The throttle plates had some build up, so cleaned them. Cranks now at 11 volts instead of in the 8's On the road again!!!
#15
Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:36 PM

Wow, glad you got it fixed....... but I don't see any photos! Baaaad!
Great that you had a local shop like that available. A lot better than having to purchase a replacement.
No photos of the Throttlebody plates?

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FJR#6 - 2014 FJR1300 ES





#16
Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:26 PM
I'm in Florida, he can't be too far. Well, actually, he could, but still, where is he?
(Folks don't realize how big Florida actually is. Find a map of the US that you don't need any more, and cut Florida out. Lay it on Texas. You can't make it fit inside Texas!)
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#17
Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:28 PM
OMG. Barry you made me piss my pants.
Don't lay this on me.. That freak Craver sent me his picture, I just laid it out here.
#18
Posted 06 April 2012 - 08:35 PM
My buddy turned me on to a place. The guy recognized the part from ten feet away, what number on the side? Come back tomorrow I'll have it.
He threw me a free set of brushes, you have to solder them in.
#19
Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:02 AM
The throttle plates had a little build up, so I cleaned them.
I haven't learned how of post pictures.