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#1 majicmaker

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 02:21 PM

After 5 Years, 7 Months and 19 Days, All of a Sudden my Key kept spinning and nothing happened. Come to find out the two little screws where gone! The Locktite must have stopped working. :unsure:

Anybody know the Part Numbers for those things? Or is this something I can get at Home Depot for $.25 instead of $25 at Yamaha? :lol:
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 03:39 PM

Go get some drywall screws and drive 'em in with some power tools. Make sure everything's nice and clean and shiny first. :P

Actually, I have no idea what the thread size is on those, but anything that fits will do. They're not, um, majic.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:08 PM

After 5 Years, 7 Months and 19 Days, All of a Sudden my Key kept spinning and nothing happened. Come to find out the two little screws where gone! The Locktite must have stopped working. :unsure:

Anybody know the Part Numbers for those things? Or is this something I can get at Home Depot for $.25 instead of $25 at Yamaha? :lol:

Take a screw out of the other bag and go to a hardware store. I would get phillips head screws for replacments and be sure to use locktite.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:17 PM

Tsk, tsk! How long have you been on this forum? How many times have you read about the warnings to loc-tite those little boogers?

All I can say is better you than me!

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I don't think there is a part # for those. Remove another and head to you nearst hardware store, or specialty nut/bolt store.

And use loc-tite when you put them back in!

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:22 PM

Go get some drywall screws and drive 'em in with some power tools. Make sure everything's nice and clean and shiny first. :P

Actually, I have no idea what the thread size is on those, but anything that fits will do. They're not, um, majic.

That is what I figured. Just wanted to check with the Gurus of all things Miscellaneous! I thought about just taking one off of the other side and go Hunting in Loews or Home Depot. Thanks! :)

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After 5 Years, 7 Months and 19 Days, All of a Sudden my Key kept spinning and nothing happened. Come to find out the two little screws where gone! The Locktite must have stopped working. :unsure:

Anybody know the Part Numbers for those things? Or is this something I can get at Home Depot for $.25 instead of $25 at Yamaha? :lol:

Take a screw out of the other bag and go to a hardware store. I would get phillips head screws for replacments and be sure to use locktite.

My thoughts Exactly!! Thanks :)
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:26 PM

Tsk, tsk! How long have you been on this forum? How many times have you read about the warnings to loc-tite those little boogers?

All I can say is better you than me!

:jester:

I don't think there is a part # for those. Remove another and head to you nearst hardware store, or specialty nut/bolt store.

And use loc-tite when you put them back in!

The Locktite must have died! I put plenty of it on when I got her home. I'm a former airplane mechanic, NOTHING got installed without Locktite! Thanks for the info on the No P/N. :P
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:31 PM


Tsk, tsk! How long have you been on this forum? How many times have you read about the warnings to loc-tite those little boogers?

All I can say is better you than me!

:jester:

I don't think there is a part # for those. Remove another and head to you nearst hardware store, or specialty nut/bolt store.

And use loc-tite when you put them back in!

The Locktite must have died! I put plenty of it on when I got her home. I'm a former airplane mechanic, NOTHING got installed without Locktite! Thanks for the info on the No P/N. :P


Well shit, remind me never to fly on a plane you have worked on! You didn't work on that F-18 that had 'issues' in Virginia yesterday, did you? :o


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Posted 07 April 2012 - 04:51 PM



Tsk, tsk! How long have you been on this forum? How many times have you read about the warnings to loc-tite those little boogers?

All I can say is better you than me!

:jester:

I don't think there is a part # for those. Remove another and head to you nearst hardware store, or specialty nut/bolt store.

And use loc-tite when you put them back in!

The Locktite must have died! I put plenty of it on when I got her home. I'm a former airplane mechanic, NOTHING got installed without Locktite! Thanks for the info on the No P/N. :P


Well shit, remind me never to fly on a plane you have worked on! You didn't work on that F-18 that had 'issues' in Virginia yesterday, did you? :o


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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:06 PM

I went with phillips head stainless for the replacements, IIRC the size is M3 X 7. They'll be easier to find at your local hardware store, [Do It Best, Ace?] rather than the big box stores.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:26 PM

Thanks for the advice and P/N. Will do! :)
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:30 PM

The Locktite must have died! I put plenty of it on when I got her home

ya not supposed to spray the threads first with wd40 for easy insert, Mr Air Farce equipment mechanic (or was it Navy tic tich)
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:05 PM

I cleaned mine with solvent and Loctited them, still came loose.

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:37 PM

If you strike out at the hardware store, go to your local hobby shop. RC cars use screws that size and they often have stainless steel hardware.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:58 PM

I cleaned mine with solvent and Loctited them, still came loose.

Thank You Powerman! At least I have one on my side! :lol:
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:00 PM

If you strike out at the hardware store, go to your local hobby shop. RC cars use screws that size and they often have stainless steel hardware.

Damn good idea! There's an RC Hobby Shop next door to the place I eat lunch in every day by the airport. I'll hit that first. :D
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:17 PM


The Locktite must have died! I put plenty of it on when I got her home

ya not supposed to spray the threads first with wd40 for easy insert, Mr Air Farce equipment mechanic (or was it Navy tic tich)

Oh! That's been my problem. I thought you were supposed to WD40 them first!....... NOT!!!! :lol: We in the Navy knew better!! Not that there's anything wrong with the Air Force! I'm OK with every bodies chosen Lifestyles! :rolleyes:
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:20 PM


Tsk, tsk! How long have you been on this forum? How many times have you read about the warnings to loc-tite those little boogers?

All I can say is better you than me!

:jester:

I don't think there is a part # for those. Remove another and head to you nearst hardware store, or specialty nut/bolt store.

And use loc-tite when you put them back in!

The Locktite must have died! I put plenty of it on when I got her home. I'm a former airplane mechanic, NOTHING got installed without Locktite! Thanks for the info on the No P/N. :P



Loc-tite is a solvent and solvents attack polycarbonate plastic and causes cracking. Bad stuff.

"The stress-cracking of polycarbonate by a gaseous or liquid agent results from the diffusion of this agent into the polymer. The low molecular weight polymer fractions and the chain ends within the bulk of the polymer become more ordered during the diffusion and swelling process by their partial solubility in the crazing agent, causing crystallization. The creation of interfaces at areas of order-disorder causes high shearing forces at this boundary and voids within the bulk of the polymer. These voids are then propagated as crazes or cracks at stresses much lower than the tensile strength of the polymer. Therefore, a stress-cracking agent need not diffuse rapidly, but must be an effective environment for swelling and/or crystallization. Data from diffusion, density, thermal and molecular analyses are presented to support this mechanism."

http://onlinelibrary...110202/abstract
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:50 PM

So, I'm standing in my garage, drinking a beer, reading this thread, turn around, pop open the latch and find the latch loose, I had checked these screws a while back, so, redoped them with loctite and finished my beer, total time, 5 minutes, another stressful chore completed, my wife fails to recognize all the hard work puttering around involves. Gotta get another cold beer.
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Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:26 PM

So, I'm standing in my garage, drinking a beer, reading this thread, turn around, pop open [another]beer... ...Gotta get another cold beer.


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Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:46 PM

Loc-tite is a solvent and solvents attack polycarbonate plastic and causes cracking. Bad stuff.

"The stress-cracking of polycarbonate by a gaseous or liquid agent results from the diffusion of this agent into the polymer. The low molecular weight polymer fractions and the chain ends within the bulk of the polymer become more ordered during the diffusion and swelling process by their partial solubility in the crazing agent, causing crystallization. The creation of interfaces at areas of order-disorder causes high shearing forces at this boundary and voids within the bulk of the polymer. These voids are then propagated as crazes or cracks at stresses much lower than the tensile strength of the polymer. Therefore, a stress-cracking agent need not diffuse rapidly, but must be an effective environment for swelling and/or crystallization. Data from diffusion, density, thermal and molecular analyses are presented to support this mechanism."

http://onlinelibrary...110202/abstract

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