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#21 huk finn

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 09:31 PM

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 10:24 PM

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 01:01 AM

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Well just contacted my dealer about the bulletin. Gave them my vin and guess what my bike is not included acourding to him. Well he said he is going to have the sevice manager call yamaha and ask them whats up. Hopefully I hear something good tomorow. Reading the bulletin if I am reading it right it states that mine is included in the FJR1300AVC/AWC RP15Y 0000001-0000744 group. My vin is this: jyarp15y26a000152. It is a 2006 fjr13avcl. Please tell me if I am right or wrong. Damn I hope I'm right.

co425, my ending vin is 000135, seems I was 17 bikes ahead on the assyembly line and mine seems to be included as well. I too somewhat confused as aftere the RP15Y there is "26A" then the zero's going into the number. Not sure where the "26A" comes into play but all else seems right. Still waiting to hear back from my service manager as he supposedly called Yamaha on Monday. Seems I now have my ammo. Yes. Thanks again to all concerned. yahoo.gif PM. <><

I think the rp15y is the year the 26A i dont know. But the last 6 is and the rp15y is what I asume is the proper range. I should hear back from my dealer today if not i will go down there before work.

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 04:00 AM

Got the new "FIX" ECU installed in my 2007 AE yesterday. My dealer took my word for it and called Yamaha Tech Support and was sent a new ECU for installation in my bike. THANKS TO THE POSTERS ON THIS FORUM!!!!!!

It seamed to run great on the way home but since I'm in FLorida, I couldn't check altitude sensitivity.

As soon as I got it home I did the Barbarian Mod and checked CO Settings. As installed it was: #1 = 5; #2 = 18; #3 = 18; & #4 = 21
I added 7 to all cylinders and it runs great but I'm wondering if maybe it didn't need the addition and that Yamaha has added a little to the CO numbers for the replacement ECU's.

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 04:08 AM

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I think the rp15y is the year the 26A i dont know. But the last 6 is and the rp15y is what I asume is the proper range. I should hear back from my dealer today if not i will go down there before work.

Here's a nice VIN tool that will tell you what each digit means.
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In your case it breaks down to: (Each VIN is 17 digits)
1-Region: Asia
1-2-Country: Japan
2-3-Manufacturer: Yamaha
4-8-Model Specific: RP15Y
9-Check Digit: Valid
10-Year: 2006
11-Assembly Plant: A
12-17-Serial Number: 000152

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 04:16 AM

I'm a bit surprised that the Technical Bulletin didn't ask the dealer to read the original ECU CO values before installing a replacement ECU. One would expect that if the CO values were important they would have included instructions to either copy the CO values from the old ECU to new ECU or specified a rivnut/EGA procedure and set new values as required. We just know that this couldn't be an oversight wink.gif

It would be interesting to see what the Barbarian jumped ECU owners find with before/after values. If you are having your ECU changed you might want to record the original CO values before the swap.



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Posted 18 October 2007 - 04:20 AM

thanks to all you guys that did so much for the rest of us.........my dealer ordered my ecu yesterday.........
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 04:22 AM

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QUOTE(co425 @ Oct 18 2007, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the rp15y is the year the 26A i dont know. But the last 6 is and the rp15y is what I asume is the proper range. I should hear back from my dealer today if not i will go down there before work.

Here's a nice VIN tool that will tell you what each digit means.
Link

In your case it breaks down to: (Each VIN is 17 digits)
1-Region: Asiacool thanks
1-2-Country: Japan
2-3-Manufacturer: Yamaha
4-8-Model Specific: RP15Y
9-Check Digit: Valid
10-Year: 2006
11-Assembly Plant: A
12-17-Serial Number: 000152

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 04:42 AM

It would be interesting to see what the Barbarian jumped ECU owners find with before/after values. If you are having your ECU changed you might want to record the original CO values before the swap.

Ionbeam, Thanks and I agree! Wish I had checked my original ECU. It seems like the replacement before mod was a tad richer than the original which was definetely too lean.

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 06:38 AM

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Your karma account is much higher, again. Thanks. BTW, called my dealer today and they claimed nothing was showing on their service sites. I told him to look harder.


My dealer told me that he always checks the yamaha service site and they always show new bulletins on the front page - but this was not showing, but since he had the number from my email to him, he looked further, and there it was, down in the section with all the prior bulletins. Apparently Yamaha does not want to "alert" the dealers, but rather, let them that need it, "find it".
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That is bullcrap! The bulletin is on the top of the list.

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 07:06 AM

How would the installation of a PIII affect the dealer doing this..remove it first ?

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 07:18 AM

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How would the installation of a PIII affect the dealer doing this..remove it first ?

The presence of the PC-III should not affect anything the dealer does.

Still, depending on your relationship with your dealer.... you may want to consider removing it for this warranty repair. Though it shouldn't make a difference, truth be told. If it's a complete ass-pain for you to remove it, I'd just leave it.

For those of you who say your dealer is having trouble locating the Bulletin, tell him that after he logs into his YDS system and enters the "Service" section, he needs to click on "Publications", then "Tech Library", and he should see the Bulletin listed right there.

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 07:49 AM

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It seamed to run great on the way home but since I'm in FLorida, I couldn't check altitude sensitivity.

As soon as I got it home I did the Barbarian Mod and checked CO Settings. As installed it was: #1 = 5; #2 = 18; #3 = 18; & #4 = 21
I added 7 to all cylinders and it runs great but I'm wondering if maybe it didn't need the addition and that Yamaha has added a little to the CO numbers for the replacement ECU's.

If it was running great with the new ECU, why would you do the BJM?!?!


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Posted 18 October 2007 - 08:39 AM

I'll dump the ECU on my dealer's owner's desk, along with instructions how to access the bulletin. Hope to get the new one in return. If they insist on the bike being there, would just connect the ECU and lay it on top. Shop is only 4 miles away. But hope air filter remains in place. Will have to check the service manual for removal instructions. Looks like the whole plastic piece has to come off on AGirl's photo.
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 08:50 AM

I called my dealer and discussed this issue with them. They have the ECU on order for me. Hopefully it wont take long to arrive. Truthfully, this is the only real "nag" I have with the bike.

How long and difficult is it to replace? Will I be able to ride the bike up and wait while the swap it out?

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 09:02 AM

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I'll dump the ECU on my dealer's owner's desk....

And we wonder why dealers get defensive about customers reading stuff on the Internet? mad.gif

If I were your dealer and you plopped a ECU down on my desk I'd seriously wonder if you didn't do something like put in your dishwasher before you brought it down. I'd make you go back home to get your bike to bring it back and confirm the VIN number off the steering neck.

Meanwhile I read the bulletin myself and when you return I'd remind you that the ECU will need to be ordered. Of course, I'd give you the option of leaving the ECU on my desk or take it back home. I'd also ask you if you're riding in any mountains with 3,000 elevation anytime soon to establish priority.

How about the whacky idea that you ride your bike down, say that you have a problem, suggest there might be a bulletin providing a number if they have any problems finding it, and then let your dealer do some work? It just seems a lot less confrontational. rolleyes.gif
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 09:05 AM

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I called my dealer and discussed this issue with them. They have the ECU on order for me. Hopefully it wont take long to arrive. Truthfully, this is the only real "nag" I have with the bike.

How long and difficult is it to replace? Will I be able to ride the bike up and wait while the swap it out?

Thanks,

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Mark, if you notice on page 3 of the bulletin the labor allowance is 0.3 hours. It also tells you how to R&R the unit. Not too difficult I must say. And probably only the dealer can do the work and as far a waiting guess that will be determined by your dealer and how busy he is. PM. <>< biggrin.gif

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 09:16 AM

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And we wonder why dealers get defensive about customers reading stuff on the Internet? mad.gif

Not when they personally know the customer. I'd get more defensive reading posts like yours dribble.gif . Later.
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 09:24 AM

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And we wonder why dealers get defensive about customers reading stuff on the Internet? mad.gif

Not when they personally know the customer.


Well, that's a great missing detail to know. Had there been a smily face with the desk dumping we might have know you were being facitious. smile.gif But, with the updated detail now other folks that aren't on first name basis with their dealer won't be confused. Thanks for the clarification. wink.gif
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Posted 18 October 2007 - 09:44 AM

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But, with the updated detail now other folks that aren't on first name basis with their dealer won't be confused. Thanks for the clarification. wink.gif

On the downer side.... by posting this in the public domain, now Yamaha Cypress knows that your dealer is cool with allowing customers to perform their own warranty work. Pretty sure that's a direct violation of policy, but....

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