Listening to forum reviews, it appears as though the G2 was not the complete answer to Herky - Jerky 06-07's. Everyone has pretty much had the same result stating that "it definitly helps". G2 wasnt around when i got fed up with this issue. Luckily Fred H. designed a fix (the fred h. shim). Freds fix has the same impact as the G2 but on the other side of the cable (which caused alot of people to stay clear of it (along with the idea that the shim may come out (which, by the way, aint gonna happen)). I wanted more!!!. since i'm not a believer in the PCIII (which many are saying is the fix along with the G2) for this particular problem, i attacked the problem from both ends. G2 combined with the Fred H. fix. This combination helps tremedously. I will admit though that i would still enjoy more control at throttle initiation, but The 2 fixes combined get me 85% there. There are only a couple of things on this motorcycle that make me feel like the engineers never decided to take there designs for a test ride. This throttle thing is one of them. I'm thinking about contacting the G2 makers to recommend a design of a 600 or an 800 (vs. the 400 sold as the FJR tamer).

GreyGoose

I am not quite as enthusiastic as most about the G2 product. While a definite improvement, it's roughly only an 50%-60% improvement. Now if we could get this and the clutch actuation problem corrected that would make for a much more refined FJR.

My experience exactly! The G2 is a definite help, but does not completely correct the problem.

PCIII? Try that, it made a BIG difference on my '06!

LC

Put the G2 on last weekend and it took care of my problem, which really didn't seem that bad to start with.

Just installed mine. Going riding tomorrow full report upon return.

i just ordered mine...but a little later (after i installed the honda heated grips). Guess i'll be doing a tear down shortly. OH well, sounds worth it!

for the madco throttle control...which model is everyone ordering? type A or type B?


thanks,
Rich

"Type B"

The Yamaha workshop manual shows compressed air is used to remove the grips.

mine may take a little more than that as i used the honda adhesive to put them on but it should be ok.

Is the G2 compatible with a throttlemeister?

I have a G2 and TM on an AE No Prob.

I'm getting ready to pick up my (new to me) 06 and ride it home.....home being 3000 miles away.

I'm wondering if I should go ahead and purchase the throttle tube and cam and install it before my trip. Does it really make that big a difference when most of my riding will be on open roads?

I am installing a vista cruise throttle lock.

Definitely install the Vista Cruise before your cross country trip. After the trip, you and the FJR will be well aquainted and you will know how comfortable (or uncomfortable) you are with the throttle.
You might want to put the 'throttle spring mod' on your list of considerations as well.

thanks Bill. I figure that if I really need the throttle spring fix after being on the bike for a day or two, I can always find a dealer on the way home with a service dept who I can go to for assistance. I don't think I'd want to try this mod in a hotel parking lot. I went ahead and ordered the throttle tube and will install it prior to my ride.

nope. in my opinion, it really only affects your riding when you're doing some twisty riding and need to make subtle adjustments and don't need to upset the suspension at the same time. you will be fine w/o it if most of the riding will be sedate and/or non-technical roads. fwiw i rode with only the g2 mod for four days of north carolina mountain carving (the motorcycle playground) with no problems, thankfully. just don't push it as much as you normally would.

What he said, that mod can wait until you get back...

Yes. I have the G2 and a Throttlemeister, and it works flawlessly.

Sweet my question is answered too! I am ordering it today.

Just got back from my first 1000 mile long weekend with my new FJR. I have a Fred H. shim in there, but I found that in the twisties, its still not enough. So, i put my order in for a G2 this morning. Hope this works.

+1 I had almost managed to adjust to the throttle but a throttle off to on transition LURCH in a slow corner convinced me to try this. Worked so well on mine it seems almost like a bit of overkill. Evidently results vary.

+1 for farkle of the year, cheap, easy to put on and great results, I didn't realize how abrupt the thottle was until I rode with the G2 this morning!!!!

I just ordered mine. I'm going to put heated grips on at the same time, and throttlemeister. Guess I need some new grips. I've heard good things about BMW sport tour grips. This should all work together correct?


Glenn

Help:
1. I want to add heated grips. Which one are better the HOT GRIPS or the Yamaha?
2. I have an radar dectector (currently attached with a big rubber band on the left brake reservoir) and am looking for a mount. Some attach to the center nut, and others on the side. If I mount the dector in the middle will it receive signals from the rear?
3. I am needing a new helmet to replace my 10 year old Arai, and am considering the Caberg Justimisso. I would like a flip up helmet, any sugggestions?
4. I am also considering a Aerostitch jacket or riding suit. I currently have a Fieldsheer suit that work well. I like the Aerostitch Falstaff and think it may be more waterproof, so I am looking for reviews on that also.

I just picked up my 06 (in Fairbanks) and have put a 1,000 miles on it, last run was to Valdez which I encountered some rain and temperatures down to +36F (yes it was still light at midnight). This is one awesome bike! Alaskan road have many frost heaves and this bike eats them up and spits them out quite well.

Thanks,
Randy Wagner
Tolsona, Alaska
907 320-0216

The search engine is your friend. Probablly would do better if you started a new thread for your questions on these and the G2 would be a good start for mods after you relieve the middle throttle spring. And I think the Yamaha heated grips are too expensive but not sure on that. Good luck and be safe. PM. <><

I recently added the G2 to my fred shim. you will definitly notice a difference with this combination. you will not completely rid yourself of "the lurch" though. but you'll be damn close (certainly closer than either of these farkles solo).

Its worth it....

GreyGoose

I rode my 06 today after installing the G-2 and I would say it is just a little better. I will do the spring thing next but i should have saved the $65 bucks.

Personally I thought the same thing until I put some miles on the bike in the twisties and started to appreceiate the off idle when applying throttle coming off the appex. Can you say smoooooooooooth? This is a great addition. PM. <><

i just put my GP2 on yesterday...definitely feel a difference..no more throttle "shock"! LOL

only thing now is my heated grips dont' work...its always something ::sigh::

Mine came in today but i'll wait till I decide which heated grips and grips to get and do it and the throttle spring,and the TBS, all at the same time.

I wouldn't recommend the throttle spring mod with a G2 & the MADCO throttle lock. It creates just a bit too much friction and with the spring mod, you can get some delay in throttle return. I had already completed the spring mod before the G2 & MADCO install and I wasn't happy with the return rate. I took the tank off and proceded to fish a piece of safety wire up under the pully to "re-spring" the throttle cam. I took me about 15 minutes but I got it done. Now I'm much more satisfied with the return. All works well now.

Herkypilot

I have a question. I have the'07 with factory heated grips. Seems to me the heat element is in the grip itself(just looking at where the wires go) so for me to do this am I looking at replacing me heated grips too? sure hate to do that considering the bike is only 10 days old and has only 120 miles on it yet... So do I need new grips or can I get them off????

Did the spring mod, G-2, and the MadCo throttle lock and everything is smooth. This setup works really great. One point, might try to smooth out the inside of the MadCo lock if using the G-2 as the G-2 is a little larger diameter than the stock throttle tube and also be sure to lube under the tube. PM. <><

I guess if I had read the entire thread I would have got my answer......

Ha... Beat everyone else to it!

I know this has been splashed all over the forum, but just got mine (and my wife's) on today. Just went around the block and it is fantastic. decarver, you need a medal. You were absolutely right. It is a great farkle. It is so smooth at slow speeds...no more jackrabbiting when going slow. I will try it out on the curves tomorrow.

The first one took me way over 10 minutes. However, my wife's took me aboutr 12 minutes. Something about knowing what you are doing.

Hey, I put in my own ECU (BFD) so I qualify for something!? Got my hand greasy......

Anyway, I brought it up again so new guys/gals can get the benefit of the info. Thanks again dcarver!

Good for you!
In trade, you can become my personal trainer as I need to get back into shape and racing MotoCross again...

+Another.

Another lover of the G2. Easy mod...great return for the investment. Easy and quick to accomplish too.
Before I was scared to try my low speed tight-manuver practice. Bike was way too jerky. Now smooth,
I've got a roll-off. My wife thought I just just not used to the new bike. Now she knows different

I thought the G2 was good but it didn't reduce the leverage during the begining and end of the throttle rotation. I thought about modifying the G2 ring but it was easier to modify the original plastic throttle tube. The original radius from the center of throttle tube to cable was 18mm. I used a dremmel to shave as close to the tube as possible. This brought the radius down to 12.5mm. I went up as close to the end of the cable as I thought could go without taking off too much "meat" since its only plastic and there is a lot of tention on the cable end. This mod changed the throttle rotation from 80 degrees to 114 degrees. Since I like to keep the front tire on the ground, I never twist it more than 80 degrees anyway. It adds about 25mm of slack to the cable so you need to take that out. I took it out on the return cable side so at rest the cable is sitting on its new 12.5mm radius and not the 18mm radius of the cable end connector. The reduced leverage also reduced some of that spring pressure on the wrist. It feels great. Smooth power from idle to wherever sensibilty kicks in. If I did it again I would just take a saw blade with a depth guide and cut a grove around the tube for the cable to ride in.

+1
Wife stopped jeering me the moment G2 was added.

I just ordered the G2 today after reading 7 pages on this subject. Being a new member as of yesterday and a FJR owner as of last April, I never heard of the G2 until today. Man, I'm really out of touch. Glad I joined up.

I installed the G2 this week, also. Some owners of AE models with heated grips are complaining of stiff or erratic throttle movement after the install. I didn't know why, but now I think I do: When you remove the 2 halves of the throttle cable housing, you will see a rubber "glob" where the heater wires enter the grip. There is extra heater wiring inside the throttle-cable housing, which allows this heater connection to follow the cam around the arc of the handlebar. Be sure to mark the location of the heated grip, in relation to the factory throttle tube (radially). 2 short pieces of pinstriping tape or a narrow strip of masking tape should do it. When reinstalling the grip on the new G2 tube, it must be slid on in nearly the same exact position. Otherwise, the glob may rotate too far around the bars, or not far enough. And this in turn may cause binding on the tube rotation. Some of this may sound vague, but it's the best way I can describe. Good luck.

Good post Phil - Thanks!

Just installed the G2 throttle tube on my 05. Nice and easy install. This fixed a slightly worn, out-of-round, stock, plastic throttle tube that would not hold with my throttle lock any more.

WOW, what a difference. It works great, went on fast (even with my anal-retentive tendencies) and feels much better than the stock tube. Nice a smooth on the bottom end... wish I could have done this 30K miles ago!

You can say that again.
You can say that again.

By golly, I guess I did, I guess I did!

OK, I finally saw the light and installed the G2 on my AE. I was getting tired of that "snatchy" throttle. I really never thought too much about it, and got used to the way the AE was from the get go (25K miles). But after last weekend's riding in Hooterville, I decided the throttle was snatching my rear tire too much.

The install was a little tough for me, but I got it done. A short test drive shows a more linear throttle and I can see where many of you wanted this gizmo, and the Fred mod.

I've already disconnected springs, and my "stock" return rate was quite slow. Now the throttle seems to drag. I had a bit of a hard time getting the cover back together with the cables in position. I had to adjust the cable all the way down to give me enough slack to get the housing to mate. Now there is no slack at all (still) in the cable and there seems to be no throttle return at all.

Any of you guys have to go back in to free things up after the install? I'm wondering what I might be able to do to loosen the parts back up so that it's back like the stock movement. If I can't get it freed up, I may cut back the stock tube and put it back in (ala Rocketman's post). Tips and suggestions please.

I'm not sure if the throttle is different on the AE (I doubt it) but it sounds is if you haven't hooked the cables in the correct positions. I would go back and re-install from the beginning. This is the first time I've heard of anyone having difficulty with the G2. It may not get rid of the "snatchy" throttle response as well as you like but it should work as well as the stock tube, as far as throttle operation.

FJRocket, I can relate to the install. It is a bit tricky but it works. I had a similar issue with the cables/slack issue. And I think that was just because I didn't loosen the throttle cable play at the throttle body side as well as at the throttle side. Once I got the cables on the ramps and made sure the ends were properly installed in the G2 Tube, (make sure you lube the ramps, cable ends, and handlebar with LS grease or whatever you use, and that the cables are fully in the groves on the ramps). I set the throttle cable play to the reccomended free play with the adjustment on the bar I believe it was 3-5mm or about 12-20 thousandths. The less play the better.

Once I had it all together because of the new grease on the bar and the middle throttle spring removed at the TB's my return rate was at first "not" fully returning but with riding around and working the throttle it settled in. I still don't have the "snap" return like stock or maybe the way it should be but I do get full return with no issues. Just give it a chance to work in. Remember a spring has been removed. Which IMO is way better than stock. Good luck and keep us updated. PM. <><

I understand the thought behind reducing the tension on the center spring but do I understand correctly, that you REMOVED the center spring?

If so, it's no wonder the throttle doesn't return correctly. Why would you remove the spring?

Also, I used graphite on the G2. Thought it would be less prone to collecting dirt.

I removed the spring on my '04 and my '06. Disconnected, removed, released.... what the hell's the difference? The fricken spring was way too tight on both bikes. Anyway, the throttle response without the main spring was fine... for over 25000 miles on both bikes. If I can just get the newly induced drag out, it'll be fine.

I'll wait a while and see if it settles in with use. If not, perhaps I'll remove it all, clean the grease out and lube with graphite and perhaps that'll solve the problem.