The Gen 1 clutch master cylinder can be swapped into the Gen 2 bike. It's been posted up before. Supposedly makes a difference.

When I installed the Madco lock, dcarver suggested prying open slightly the ID of the lock. I used a large screw driver and pryed the opening where it slides over the bar and vola, it slide right on over the tube. Also I used a thin coat of grease on the handlebar which helped also. Thanks Don. PM. <><

The Madco in combination with the G2 resuted in galling of both surfaces when I first installed them dry - despite spreading the Madco. This resulted in poor operation that I couldn't correct. Then I smoothed both surfaces with v. fine grit sandpaper and applied a light coating of Lubriplate grease and readjusted. Works perfectly - holds and snaps closed as with stock.

Hey guyz, remember to unthread the lock nut prior to spreading the ID apart using a screwdriver. You shouldn't have to add lubricant or anything. Or at least I didn't/haven't. YMMV

Just for clarification, I put the thin coat of grease on the handlebar, (as reccomended by the manual), then slide the throttle tube over the lubed bar. To note also while lubing the bar, also lube the cable ends where they insert into the cam and lube the ramp on the cam that the cables ride on with LS grease and also lube the cables inside the sleeves with cable lube or engine oil. I also used emery cloth to smooth out the ID of the lock and the knurling on the new throttle tube to help the lock slide over. PM. <><

i just got the g2 cam, going to install tonight. And since I don't have compressed air, any reason why I shouldnt smash off the old throttle tube with a hammer?

A cutting torch is much faster.

Yeah, but I think I want a non-melted handgrip.

So, the hammer works. I used a sock to not scuff up my grip.








+1 on this farkle. Took it out for a minute to test it, very good improvement.

@E1Allen

you obviously dont have heated grips......
thats why most take the non caveman approach....

jason.

Well, It didn't require much beating. Id bet the AE heated grips could handle it if one were to hammer those.

i suppose they might survive, but i never fully disconnected the heated grip from the loom, during
my install of the G2. in truth, the break them up approach just never entered my mind as an alternative.

glad it worked for you.

jason

Hammer...... PM. <><

Yes, a hammer I figured instead of getting frustrated by trying to blow compressed air between the grip and the tube and slowly work it off, I just gave it a few good whacks and that's all it took. When else will I get to break something off the FJR with a hammer anyways?

I ordered this farkle in the dead of winter and just installed it today.

It took a total of 10 minutes to do.

Pulled the throttlemiester, and with the help of my daughter and the air compressor had the grip off in no time.

Previously I had done the barbarian mod, but have yet to invest in a PC-III. All in all I didn't find the throttle abruptness to be nearly as bad as what a lot of people whine about.

Hence I don't feel a big difference with the G2 throttle sleeve. Perhaps it's a little better, a little smoother. Is it worth the $50 bucks? I don't know yet. I'll have to really go out and hammer some twisties to see if it's really much better.

It's nice to know you have a nice aluminum throttle thingy as opposed to plastic and I think my throttle is smoother too in generally. I didn't grease, just used what was left from the factory part.

But I'd have to say, I'm not overly convinced it made a big difference yet.

-MD

Get out and ride it Earl. You'll see the difference right away. You can complete the transformation by adding the 05 slave cylinder.

Sooooo,.... You did the G2 with stock heated grips and got everything back together. This was a worry that was holding me back from ordering it. Any tips or thoughts that will help with a heated/stock change. This has been bugging me for the last few weeks, not knowing how the elements were attached to the tube n' stuff.

Cheers

-DON

dcarver,
When you "spread" the lock to go over the G2 tube was it enough to permanently deform the lock to a slightly larger diameter, or just enough to get it to slide over the knurled area?
I'm getting ready to install mine and wondered if boring the lock would be necessary to let the throttle snap back?
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No boring will be required. It didn't take much to 'open' the lock sufficient enough to slide on and work perfectly. Once it was spread, it relaxed somewhat to the original size, but not all the way back. It's been on the bike now for months and a bunch of miles, I've not had to adjust again.

THANKS for the excellent write up and responses!
Both companies (G2 and MADCO) shipped quickly and as stated before, Bill at MADCO even shipped before he received payment!!

G2 Group Buy coming soon!

Stay tuned,
GZ

@DonRed7

yep, the heating elements are built into the grip itself, not the tube.

there was no problem with the stock heated grips and the G2 install.

jason

I am fully engulfed in farkle fever. Haven't yet had a chance for a single ride over 50 miles on my '07, but that isn't stopping me from farkling. Started with Skyway sliders, put on the Throttlemeister, grip puppies, have a Heli triple clamp ready to mount, ordered a VStream (2 weeks lol), and now have the G2 on its way. Have spent ridiculous hours reading the threads on all of these; the G2 is a must-have. Now looking at top case and other storage solutions. It is 45 and drizzly here, fantastic riding weather, nothing to do but farkle.

Yes, this is by far the easiest Farkle install I've ever done. (Use an Air Compress, or you'll hate life, as grip just tend to suck).

Now that I've put about 1200 miles on the bike since the g2 install, it's well worth the ~$50.00

While I still don't think it made as huge of an impact as some people claim, I have no regrets. Maybe some bikes were just worst than mine, or people weren't used to riding something with a little 'kick'.

D'oh! I just ordered my G2

+1. I haven't even ridden with it yet!

Who has the best price on the G2? I went to their site and it's 60 bucks. Are there any other vendors?

Only show in town that I know of.

Capt.Bob

Stop trying to save a buck on the G2. The sooner you get it installed the quicker you begin saving miles on the rear tire. It will pay for itself in short time.
Besides, when's the last time you hesitated to pay someone $60 to put a smile on your face.

question for Dcarver on compressed air. Do I need a compressor for this? What type of connector on the compressor? Or....are you talking about the compressed air in a can? Excuse me if I'm a little green to this stuff.

You will need an air compressor with the typical blow nozzle. Not the OSHA approved type. Smaller tip is better.
Compressed air in cans will not get the job done. Too much volume and blow time required.

Not to cut in on Don, but you can use some WD-40, just squirt it under the grip to remove and take it and wash it with warm soapy water asap after removal. Mine came right off. PM. <><

I adjusted the excess slack out of my throttle cable tonight as suggested in some other threads. Definitely "helped" with the jerky throttle reponse going thru the 1st couple of gears. Once I'm at 3rd and above I don't really notice any jerkiness. Still from what you guys have posted hear, I think the G2 sounds like the 1st farkle I'll be getting for my new baby. I just hope this weather finally turns. I still have under a 100 mile on it!

With my G2 installed, the throttle inspires enough confidence to drag hard parts This is what it's suppose to be IMHO

Did the G2 mod today. Best Farkle so far.
I think the throttle turns easier as well as eliminating the dead spot.

Hey Indian Scout,

You say it turns easier? Did you release the middle spring or is it easier to turn with the new tube and cam?

Thanks.

Installed the G2 along with a Heli triple clamp today. Compressed air was definitely the thing for removing the grip; I conveniently have ~1/4 diameter wand at the end of the air hose, sticks easily between the throttle tube and grip. Squeezed a little around the open end to trap the air, and the grip popped loose and easily pulled off. I had to reposition the air wand about half way off, as I lost the position and got stuck. Anyway, it took less than 5 minutes to unscrew the throttle housing and remove the grip. I have a Throttlemeister, no problem at all installing in the new throttle tube.

After installing, I also tightened up the throttle cable tension, as there was too much play to begin with. The combination of excess play and abrupt throttle made the bike a little jumpy at slow throttle. Now... Unbelievable, total control. The weather is terrible here, but can't wait to take it out on a long run. Just took it around town to confirm operation, it is fantastic. Great farkle.

I've got the triple-clamp, risers, and the G2 on the shelf, waiting to be installed. Oh for more than 24 hours in a day.

LC

For us not so mechanically inclined - can this be done with heated grips on a 2007 AE?

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