I installed a FJR-specific G2 Ergo throttle tube and cam yesterday. Installation was painless; the G2 is the same exact length as stock, fit the bar perfectly. The only difference is the G2 has a slightly larger OD; I had to 'spread' my Madco throttle lock so it would fit over the larger diameter.

Test results? This is the single best farkle you can add to your 2006 FJR to cure throttle abruptness. Serious. The throttle cam has a 'flat' spot long that allows for a truely 'linear' pull at low throttle settings. Low speed parking maneuvers, and tight corners are a dream now. I have also done the Barbarian jumper mod and added Grip Puppies. The biggest change though, and a dramatic, can't miss something has happened for the better' type of change is the G2.

You can kinda see the cam action in this pix.







..and the MadCo throttle lock.

So this was a piece of cake to install?

Should I buy new grips? or was the factory grip easy to get off and back on?

(I don't have or feel the need for Grip Puppies yet).

-MD

Yes, it was really easy. I did it all in less than 10 minutes. You will *most likely* need new grips. I had already replaced the stock grips when I installed the MADCO throttle lock months earlier.. I simply cut them off with a single edged blade back then. Don't recall if they were glued from the factory or not. For this go round, I used compressed air under the grip to slip it off without damage. Also, I use safety wire on my grips to prevent slipping when wet.

I can't state strongly enough how well this farkle works. Most times, you farkle it and 'kind of' feel a difference (Strada E tires vs Road Pilots, barbarian jumper mod, etc) but this farkle is very much evident at the first post farkle ride. I am really, really, with this farkle.

Excellent report dcarver. Glad to hear someone who's finally done this mod and successfully. I likey the setup you have with the Madco throttle lock as well. Did you use the #400 cam ring? Thanks, PM. <><

Thanks, DC !!

I've placed my order. Should ship tomorrow.

Yes, I used the #400 ring. Actually, it was what came with the 'FJR' package. You'll probably giggle like I did when you see how long the 'flat' spot is on the cam. When you install it, the stamped '400' goes to the inside, towards the bike centerline.. but I know you already knew that...



Kate's Dad - you will love this.. I wish I had thought of it first. So simple.. and works so good..

What REALLY sucks is that I thought of this idea and started doing research a couple weeks before the G2 became public knowledge on the forum. Once people found those for $60, my little machine to re-machine the stock throttle tube seems not worthwhile.

Gee, imagine that. Who would've figured the problem was in the throttle pulley redesign all along...

I don't think that the problem is in the throttle pulley. I think that you found the problem. This is just a cure .

Fred, you ROCK! The pulley below the tank is completely incorrect; you found it and fixed it with the patented FredH wire fix.. but for us ham-fisted nimrods, we are scared to attempt that fix.. This solution, at the *other* end of the throttle cable, is much more do-able for the mechanically challenged. Either method will 'fix' the problem.. which Yamaha should really correct, IMHO. All I know is this.. for 10 or 20 minutes of time, this is by far the best farkle I've installed.

Will any of this technology help us old-schoolers (Fred H. fix or tube thingy)?

Fred does rock. I put the LED array in my Givi box and now my rear end is a formidable sight (LED brakeflasher, bag reflectors, Givi Fred H. LED array).

Toe, IIRC, the abrupt-throttle syndrome evolved with the 06' model. However, my bet would be that the earlier FJ's use the same size/shape throttle tube.. and if you wanted a more linear 1/8th throttle, this tube would work.. I'll wait for the X-perts to chime in..

Well, that was one of the easiest farkle installs I've done in a while -

Wonky's warming up right behind me as I type this - I've already noticed a difference in the uptake from idle -

ok. now where did I put that Widder gear ??

I gotta go!!



EDIT: 9:23 PM - HOLY CRAP !! THIS is what it's SUPPOSED to be like !! Just pulling out of my driveway was different - smooth, predictable, quite an improvement! Makes me want to go visit the parking lot where I did my MSF class - and start practicing the figure 8's ...

Thanks for the tip, DC !!

Do previous years benefit at all from this or is it something Yama slighted on the 06 model?

My 05 did not have this problem. It is limited to the 06 models.

I'm no expert but after looking up the part number for the grip assy., (5JW-26240-00-00), the number is the same for an 05 and an 06. This tells me the difference is in the pully on the throttle body side only. By using the g2 throttle tube cam #400 you are offsetting the pull ratio to bring it back into spec with the earlier years ratio's. Darn it now I have to order one. Will it ever end? PM. <><

Here is an answer from Sam on grips and throttlemeister.

I have dealt with a guy on the FJR Forum that used a Throttlemeister
and that is why I did not chamfer the end of my tube so that it had a better
service and he is the guy that helped me get my tube length right. I believe
that the only thing that was a little different is that my tube measures
1.011" in outside diameter and yours is 1.00". I think that his name on the
forum is shokdimn. I am sure that he would give you a comment because he was
an awfully nice guy.
The heated grips I can not tell you personally but a lot of people
have bought my throttle that have put heated grips on them but I have never
had any one comment back on if they worked or didn't.
I will guarantee my throttle assembly against ANY reason that you
can come up with if you don't like it!

Thank you!
Sam

Nope.

It does work, huh! If only all farkles had this cost/ease of install/result factor! BTW, you keep Wonky in the living room, next to the computer? If so, you da man!

Wonky lives in the master bedroom.....

Or do I live in the garage? I'm not sure which it is ....

I just happen to have a really old almost a doorstop of a laptop in the garage - on my workbench. Helps when doing stuff on the bike - information access !!

Was some mention in another post about shaping the stock grip assy. to resemble the #400 cam using a hand file or dremil? PM. <><

Yeah.. but the stock unit is plastic or teflon.. the new tube is nice aluminum with x-hatch pattern where the grip fits.. and different cams are available should one want to change the response curve.

Maybe not so good for running heated grips with?

Hmm,
the pciii only cured about 90% of the throttle abruptness. I guess there's only so much you can do by remapping the injectors. I didn't feel comfortable messing with the throttle pully, but maybe i can combine this project with some heated grips...

If I am as smart as I think I am.....(no comment on that) and I read this correctly, this will work with a Throttlemeister. Correcto?

Think so as the locking mechanism for the TM should expand to that diameter. I will let you know when I try it.

BIG kudos to Fred for identifying the source of this problem... (in my opinion!)

Unlike Fred, I'm just too nervous to "fiddle" with the throttle pulley, but working at the other end fits my comfort level.

Found a good write up this morning on the G2:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/throttle-cam/


Stu

That's circular though, since he says in the article he read about the cam here.....

Installed the G2 cam with the Honda heated grips and both work great. The warmth is very welcome and the difference in throttle response is incredible!!!!! The G2 is the fix for the abrupt snatch in low rpm. When transitioning from throttle shut-down into a corner to throttle application is now fixed!!!!! The difference in feel is amazing.

Anyone who has not done this mod needs to do it. This is the mod/farkle of the year!

I installed the madco throttle lock, it really works well, except that I found the chrome flip switch a bit too small when your wearing winter gloves. Has anyone else experienced that? I did inform madco and they said if they have a lot more requests they would tool up accordingly, meanwhile they suggested I fit a small piece of rubber tubing over the switch!.

I did the install:

2006 AE model FJR with heated grips (factory), and Throttlemeister or "TM" -- everything works fine...

so yes -- the G2 Ergo cam worked for me on an 06 AE with TM and heated grips.

The cam improves the riders ability to control low rpm -- thereby allowing greater control for throttle input to the YCCS ECU.

Rickster,
What did you do to get the grips off? I have read the many posts about using a screwdriver or something to pry off the grip, but I am afraid to do that with the heating elements in there? What did you do?

What has to be done to move the heating element to the new tube? Do you just peel it off the old tube and stick it to the new one?

Anything else that might be different about the AE inntall?

Thanks.

First -- make sure you take a good look at where the cable on the grips for the heater line up with the plastic throttle tube. You will need to put the grips on in the same orientation on the G2 throttle tube.

I got them off using soapy water, and a compressor. just put the air nozzle between the edge of the grip and the plastic and it expands the grip (you can feel it increase in diameter). Then squirted some soapy water in there, and more compressed air. Now --
Glove in one hand to hold the plastic tube where the cables were, and a dish towell to grip the rubber grip -- I quarter turned and pulled to get them off. It did take a bit of effort.

The heating elements are molded into the grips -- nothing has to be done to move the heating elements to the new tube -- they are integrated into the rubber.

i think the only thing that's different about the AE is that the grips have heaters, and you need to pay close attention to how the wires are dressed in the throttle housing, and how the grip is oriented relative to the throttle sleeve. I took pictures with a dig. cam. prior to switching.

Part of an email I received from G2, an explanation of the cam differences.


If for ANY reason after you get the Throttle Cam System and
you think that it is too mild I will exchange that cam for another one. The
400Y cam seems to be the best one but I have a 200Y (-10%) 300Y (-16%) & the
400Y (-20%).

I just ordered a G2 this week. Does anyone know whether this helps the stiff throttle spring issue as well or should that still be loosened 1 turn?

Thanks.

I think you'll find the mechanical advantage provided by the G2 400 cam over the return springs will provide the relief you're looking for. I wouldn't mess with the springs until you spend some time with the new throttle tube.

dcarver,

did you just add the spacer to the end of the throttle tube to make up for the madco unit, or did you cut the grip??

chiefj48

Added the G2 tube yesterday.
Install was very easy. Compressed air IS the trick to removing grips.
And for anyone running a BrakeAway throttle lock, the G2 tube works fine.
I will admit, the abrupt throttle on my bike wasn't that bad. I always thought it was my technique (still do). The tube has helped.

Capt. Bob

For the $$, so far, this is the best farkle I've installed.. I've not heard of any one unhappy with this farkle...

hense -- my nominaton for this to be..




the....





2006....







Farkle of the year.

clicky

it's one of the best, i must say!!

chiefj48

chiefj48, I used the spacer, no grip cutting was required. See http://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php?s...91&hl=madco for pix.. I hope this helps - Don

Don, I have to agree the MadCo unit is on my short list. After researching out all the throttle locks and cruise controls I could find, this is one that looks like a quality unit and one that belongs on the FJR. The others look like an after thought and some need modification of some type to fit our bike. And this one is in about mid range for price which is ok by me. This coupled up with the G2 tube and cam sounds pretty good and from the previous posts I've heard of no problems. PM. <><

PM, I'm happy to report that many months later, the unit still works and looks as good as when new. Sometimes, you DO get what you pay for...

The only drawback I've found so far is that it's hard to disconnect with heavy winter gloves on. Otherwise it works great!

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The only drawback I've found so far is that it's hard to disconnect with heavy winter gloves on. Otherwise it works great!
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Dave, I think I read on another post somewhere that in the winter one could add a piece of tubing over the release knob or something similar for easier access. Might be worth a shot. PM. <><

hi all,

i just received my madco cam-lock, and it's a very nice piece!! i ordered it saturday, and received it this afternoon. now thats what i call great srvice. anyone looking for a nice throttle lock, give bill a call 619 423 5693 he's a great guy, and very easy to work with.

chiefj48

Just like Mr. Carver's experience, Bill sent out the throttle lock in the mail to me before I sent him the check! Standup guy. He doesn't take credit cards but worthy item as mentioned and will make the trip to Utah alot easier. Also I have to give Sam at G2 Ergonomics a plug because when I ordered the throttle fix kit for the 06 I used a gift credit card I got for Christmas that really wasn't working, no fault to me or him, and he shipped out the throttle kit to me anyway. And if the problem was not correctable he was going to just write off the payment for my order and ship it anyway!! The problem was later corrected but I have to tell ya it is people like this that deserve our respect and our service to buy their products. These folks are a rare item in todays world and I think this goes a long way to show who they really are and that this forum is and has gained respect in the motorcycling community. I am truly grateful to these guys and the way they care about their customers! PM. <>< Thanks.

+1

I'll add to the love. What they said.

I started out the journey with Throttlemeister on stock tube with aftermarket grips. By the time I was done, I had installed VStrom hand guards, the G2 throttle tube, and the madco. A couple of observations . . .

Pay attention to which way is up on the hand guards. Don't ask. If you do it right, these are dog-simple to install and are everything people say they are. Excellent farkle. They do, however, kill the throttlemeister . . .

The G2 throttle tube and cam are another five minute install. If you're intimidated, don't be. It is a wonder. I have the PCIII installed which did a lot to tame to low speed ugliness, but the G2 is the real deal. Much more control through the full range of motion.

This is where it gets tricky. The G2 tube is slightly wider than the stock plastic. I had to do some jimmying and prying to get the Madco on . . . and it's still sticky. I've sprayed on some silicone which seems to help. There is still a positive throttle closure, but it doesn't snap closed like it does when it's stock. Ymmv (suggestions welcome).

And does it work? Miles better than the T-meister. Fabulous piece of kit. Get one.

Just installed the G2 tube on the 07. Used some sport-touring grips ordered from CA Sport Touring. Had to open the ends of the grips, and trimmed quite a bit off the throttle side grip. But with the small amount of trimming necessary, the Vista-Cruise lock installed well.

I drilled and tapped a 3mm thread/hole into one side of the throttle housing to accept a long shanked steel ball. The ball functions as a pivot lock for the Vista Cruise, in place of the various brackets supplied, none of which actually work on the FJR. On my 05 I had used a small (2mm) bolt for the pivot lock. The 3mm steel ball worked much better.

The effects of the G2 were instantly noticeable and appreciated. Great farkle!

Now if they would just make a clutch slave cylinder I would have all the ergonomics under control.