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Differences between Gen 2 and Gen 1 & 2.5 Clutch Assemblies
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<blockquote data-quote="RaYzerman19" data-source="post: 1111818" data-attributes="member: 18388"><p>Let's define some things so we're all talking apples and apples............ the engagement/disengagement point of the clutch lever vs. handlebar is adjustable via the lever adjuster. The Gen I slave causes the lever travel difference between engagement and disengagement to be larger due to it's larger volume of fluid required to move the slave.</p><p></p><p>My definition (or preference) is that when cold, I want my clutch to be disengaged just before the lever hits the handlebar. If we use that as the benchmark/starting point, if I remember right, my Gen II slave-equipped bike would have the lever adjusted at position 3, and with Gen I slave the lever is adjusted at 4 (might have been 4 and 5 respectively, it's been a while). This also means, besides having to reach further with the Gen I slave, the full engagement point of the clutch is further away from the bar but before the lever is fully released. Confused yet? The Pazzo levers have 6 positions, and with the Gen I slave I have it set at 4. If I set it at 3 (my real preference), I get a slight clutch drag when pulled right to the bar, especially when cold, i.e., difficult to find neutral. At 4 no problem. When the engine is warmed up/hot, I can get away with 3 but it's still marginal.... should also note, this is with grip puppies or grip buddies. If you don't use these, then you may get away with lever settings one notch closer than mine.</p><p></p><p>It would be good to know where the Gen I and Gen II guys have their levers adjusted to, with original slaves. Chances are the Gen II folks have theirs adjusted one notch closer than the Gen I folks.</p><p></p><p>About that AE, the '09 A used the Gen I slave, the '09 AE uses the Gen II slave..... might have something there.</p><p></p><p>To me there is no logical reason adding a spacer in the slave will change the amount of travel. Therefore, I'm not seeing where the disengagement/engagement points would change on the lever, it still has to travel the same amount no matter what.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RaYzerman19, post: 1111818, member: 18388"] Let's define some things so we're all talking apples and apples............ the engagement/disengagement point of the clutch lever vs. handlebar is adjustable via the lever adjuster. The Gen I slave causes the lever travel difference between engagement and disengagement to be larger due to it's larger volume of fluid required to move the slave. My definition (or preference) is that when cold, I want my clutch to be disengaged just before the lever hits the handlebar. If we use that as the benchmark/starting point, if I remember right, my Gen II slave-equipped bike would have the lever adjusted at position 3, and with Gen I slave the lever is adjusted at 4 (might have been 4 and 5 respectively, it's been a while). This also means, besides having to reach further with the Gen I slave, the full engagement point of the clutch is further away from the bar but before the lever is fully released. Confused yet? The Pazzo levers have 6 positions, and with the Gen I slave I have it set at 4. If I set it at 3 (my real preference), I get a slight clutch drag when pulled right to the bar, especially when cold, i.e., difficult to find neutral. At 4 no problem. When the engine is warmed up/hot, I can get away with 3 but it's still marginal.... should also note, this is with grip puppies or grip buddies. If you don't use these, then you may get away with lever settings one notch closer than mine. It would be good to know where the Gen I and Gen II guys have their levers adjusted to, with original slaves. Chances are the Gen II folks have theirs adjusted one notch closer than the Gen I folks. About that AE, the '09 A used the Gen I slave, the '09 AE uses the Gen II slave..... might have something there. To me there is no logical reason adding a spacer in the slave will change the amount of travel. Therefore, I'm not seeing where the disengagement/engagement points would change on the lever, it still has to travel the same amount no matter what. [/QUOTE]
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