Advice

Yamaha FJR Motorcycle Forum

Help Support Yamaha FJR Motorcycle Forum:

MOTORCOP20

Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2016
Messages
16
Reaction score
11
Location
Holden, MA
2018 matte blue FJR: I had the 2nd gear recall repair done right before I bought the bike at dealership A. I had Recall 2 done at dealership B. While riding I had an issue when I have it throttle the rpm’s would rise but no power went to the rear wheel. After a few month I finally had time to bring it back to dealership B to have them look at it. They diagnosed the issue just as described and were able to duplicate what I was describing. So they tore into it and discovered Dealership A put the clutch plates on wrong after Recall 1. Dealership B says Yamaha won’t cover the issue. I called Dealership A and told them about Dealership B findings and of course Dealership A stands by their technician.
Dealership B wants $1000 to fix the clutch

What’s my next step?
 

rbentnail

Economic Plankton
Joined
Jan 10, 2008
Messages
2,201
Reaction score
820
Location
Asheboro, NC
Write a check and chalk it up to experience. You can continue to try to get dealership A to pony up but if they choose not to then you're SOL. You'll spend more trying to get less. File a complaint at Yamaha USA but that won't get your bike fixed or your money reimbursed. Dog Dealership A on ratings, be sure to comment about how the work and the management sucks. If they're a member of the BBB file a complaint there too. But the the fact is you're out $1K if you want your bike fixed.
 

infrared

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 11, 2013
Messages
347
Reaction score
145
Location
Near the Great Salt Lake, Utah, USA, Sol III.
Motorcop,

Most states have a Small Claims Court. The limit may be around US$ 1000, but that varies. I would get some free (local) legal advice, and see if there are options for you. In many Small Claims Courts, nobody can have an attorney at all, and in any court, you can simply represent yourself. Document everything first, of course. If the other side does not show up to court, or sends a lawyer where the parties can not have any lawyers (by local statutes), then hey, YOU WON, and you can write your own amount on the settlement. Do not expect damages for "pain and suffering," or punitive damages, but the Court will usually make you whole again. That can include your lost wages, if you took time off from work, but check on that part locally.

I'd still give Dealership A one last chance to set things right, before going to court, but that's just me. "See you in court" is your best parting shot. If you are talking from good knowledge and confidence, they may decide right then, to take better care of their customers.

The BBB is a bad joke. Any creep-show operation that pays money into the BBB has the best possible BBB rating, no matter what they do wrong, and all complaints against a paying "member" will get lost, not resolved. Internet ratings may be effective, but don't make personal or libelous attacks.

All IMHO, of course. Check locally, because I do not live there.
 
Last edited:

RossKean

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 15, 2010
Messages
5,907
Reaction score
2,240
Location
Fredericton, NB
Unless they REALLY screwed up the assembly, chances are that only the friction disks and clutch cover gasket need to be replaced - parts cost under $200. Steel clutch plates are likely OK - may need to be scrubbed with Scotchbrite pads and some solvent to clean them up. Replacement is needed if they are burnt, warped or below thickness spec. Not too difficult to do if you don't get satisfaction from Dealer A.

I would get the necessary parts and do it myself and make sure to leave appropriate reviews for Dealer A to make it sting a bit. (Clutch cover gasket might be reusable and I would have a look at the condition of all the friction disks - might only be a couple of bad ones.) Certainly shouldn't cost anywhere near $1000 to do it yourself unless there is significant concurrent damage.
 

FJR Flyer

DC Commuter Commando
Joined
Sep 8, 2008
Messages
972
Reaction score
118
Location
Maryland
I wonder if Dealership A failed to soak the friction plates in oil prior to installation.
 

harper

Which side is the brake on?
FJR Supporter
Joined
Jul 3, 2015
Messages
317
Reaction score
341
Location
Seattle, WA
Your next step is to write a thread title with some information in it. At least with the word "clutch" in it.

I have found that reporting companies to the attorney general in the state where they do business is sometimes more effective than reporting them to the BBB. It doesn't matter if they are a member of the BBB they will still be rated poorly.
 
Last edited:

JQL

Active member
Joined
Nov 15, 2014
Messages
37
Reaction score
38
Location
France
Unfortunately, some Yamaha Dealer's mechanics are just cowboys.

In Europe I had multiple problem with the work for the 2nd gear recall. The garage fixed one of the problems but refuse to fix the other. I went to Yamaha France and they sent an "investigator" to check the bike out - waste of time. He said that the vibration was "within limits". I even wrote to the CEO of Yamaha Japan - another waste of time. They never replied to my letters. Soured my relationship with Yamaha and will probably never buy anything from them ever again.

I've had a number of problems with Main Dealers: Honda in the UK (in France they are excellent), Mercedes (yep, couldn't fix an HID headlight) and Yamaha in France and now will usually avoid Main Dealers like the plague unless I have no option.

You need to make sure that the garage gets a bad review and rating in as many places as possible (don't forget Google Maps) and then find a good independent mechanic to look after the bike or learn to do it yourself.
 

SkooterG

Purveyor of Crooked Facts
Joined
Jun 13, 2005
Messages
10,187
Reaction score
1,545
Location
Skootsdale, AZ
Fix it yourself. Shouldn't be that hard. Max $200 in parts I bet. How many miles since dealership A screwed it up. I would keep on trying with those guys to work something else.
 

MOTORCOP20

Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2016
Messages
16
Reaction score
11
Location
Holden, MA
Thanks for all the response. Dealership A, immediately got defensive and said my mechanic has over 30 years experience that did that job. So yeah I don’t have much confidence in Dealer A taking the hit.
Still waiting to hear back after they both speak with each other.

I’ll keep ya posted
 

MOTORCOP20

Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2016
Messages
16
Reaction score
11
Location
Holden, MA
I’m SOL! Dealership A refused any accountability and Dealership B tried their best. I’m out the cost of the repair.
 

RossKean

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 15, 2010
Messages
5,907
Reaction score
2,240
Location
Fredericton, NB
I’m SOL! Dealership A refused any accountability and Dealership B tried their best. I’m out the cost of the repair.
Take it apart and see exactly what is needed in terms of parts. Might be as little as a couple of friction disks. Even a full set of friction disks and a clutch cover gasket should only run a couple hundred dollars. Some or all of the steel disks MIGHT need replacement but more likely they are OK. Clean them up and check them for evidence of overheating, warpage or worn below thickness spec.

Not that difficult to do...
 

Brodie

Darksider #16 - and Proud of it !
Joined
Sep 17, 2006
Messages
1,430
Reaction score
486
Location
--- Milpitas, CA --- San Jose Bay Area
Motorcop,

Since dealership B is already inside the bike, and looking at the clutch plates, have them complete the job, and pay them for their good work and time. At this point Dealership B is your friend, and deserves your support.

Good luck with resolving the dispute with Dealership A. You have some good advice from the members here, let us know how it turns out.

Brodie
🙂
 

Oldjeep

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 28, 2021
Messages
160
Reaction score
127
Location
Mn
Fix it yourself. Shouldn't be that hard. Max $200 in parts I bet. How many miles since dealership A screwed it up. I would keep on trying with those guys to work something else.
This. It is a simple job. Pull it apart, assess what you need and be done with it.
 
Top