Fuel Injection Problem with Magnetic Tank Bags
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Come on guys, we all know that magnets can affect ferrous compounds within their field reach. That's a simple fact of physics.
Assuming that the fuel being used contains molecular ferric levels, it's entirely possible that it could affect FI systems. Also, let's not forget that many silicon based integrated circuit chips used in FI systems are, in fact, not really silicon based - but ferrous oxide based, also known as "rust" chips. This is due to the cost cutting efforts used in the chip manufacturing industry. Just take a tour of the Frito-Lay factory some time, and you'll understand.
That being said, and all things being equal, one could simply add H2O to one's fuel, which would have the affect of combining the O2 with the Fe molecules in the fuel, binding them together into FeO2 which would then precipitate out of the fuel stream before hitting the injectors, and no issues will occur. You'd simply have to clean the precipitate out of your fuel filter on a regular basis. I've sometimes had to substitute Diet Pepsi for H2O when the latter wasn't available, which has the added benefit of a dose of caffeine to the fuel mix - easily adding another 500 rpm to the speed of the engine before valve float becomes an issue. However, it does' result in random 'burps' as the CO2 gas in the Diet Pepsi is ejected out of the exhaust system following expansion.
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Honest. It's da twuth !!
Assuming that the fuel being used contains molecular ferric levels, it's entirely possible that it could affect FI systems. Also, let's not forget that many silicon based integrated circuit chips used in FI systems are, in fact, not really silicon based - but ferrous oxide based, also known as "rust" chips. This is due to the cost cutting efforts used in the chip manufacturing industry. Just take a tour of the Frito-Lay factory some time, and you'll understand.
That being said, and all things being equal, one could simply add H2O to one's fuel, which would have the affect of combining the O2 with the Fe molecules in the fuel, binding them together into FeO2 which would then precipitate out of the fuel stream before hitting the injectors, and no issues will occur. You'd simply have to clean the precipitate out of your fuel filter on a regular basis. I've sometimes had to substitute Diet Pepsi for H2O when the latter wasn't available, which has the added benefit of a dose of caffeine to the fuel mix - easily adding another 500 rpm to the speed of the engine before valve float becomes an issue. However, it does' result in random 'burps' as the CO2 gas in the Diet Pepsi is ejected out of the exhaust system following expansion.
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Honest. It's da twuth !!
GunMD
Well-known member
Does the use of H2O from a natural spring provide any additional benefit? How about deionized H2O?
Preferably one should use distilled H2O - using natural spring or tap introduces additional mineral elements to the mix, resulting in a variable precipitate mix, with the resultant escalation of the fuel filter maintenance schedule.
AethonFJR
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This thread has gone pretty much as I expected…….
I don’t care what anyone says……. There is absolutely no shortage on FeeJeeR Masters with a funny, if not totally warped sense of humor.
Some of these empirical explanations make me wonder if some of you guys have had a little too much government educations…..
And when I say a reference to this on a totally difference thread about the eclipse
“I was going to look but my magnetic tank bag caused and oscillatory moon movement precluding my molecular visualization of the so-called eclipse.. ” I knew I was in for a ride when I checked to see the responses here.
I think I would have to conclude that this MYTH has been major busted….. or what ever it is they say…..
I don’t care what anyone says……. There is absolutely no shortage on FeeJeeR Masters with a funny, if not totally warped sense of humor.
Some of these empirical explanations make me wonder if some of you guys have had a little too much government educations…..
And when I say a reference to this on a totally difference thread about the eclipse
“I was going to look but my magnetic tank bag caused and oscillatory moon movement precluding my molecular visualization of the so-called eclipse.. ” I knew I was in for a ride when I checked to see the responses here.
I think I would have to conclude that this MYTH has been major busted….. or what ever it is they say…..
Perhaps you should print this out and go visit the BMW . . ah. . . . "salesperson."
You might have a wee bit of fun with him !!
Bustanut joker
Well-known member
No electrical problems to note.... However I fell victim to an unfortunate dog bite incident in my younger years, lost my left
testicle.
Now mind ya this was before the "modern age" of plastics and polymers so I was forced to use steel bearings as a replacement, otherwise you're 'outa balance' and fall over, leading the police to believe you're drunk alot. Hmmm!
Anyway you must increase the diameter as you age to offset the hang factor. I didn't have a problem with magnetic bags till two years ago with the added 6 mm diameter of the prosthetic nut. Now I need assistance extricating myself from my scoot.
So yeah I'd say magnetic tank bags are an no no.
jmho,
:jester:
AethonFJR
Well-known member
Magna res est vocis et silentii temperamentum –
DUE TO ITS TECHNICAL NATURE, I can see now why this thread has not been moved off to the Jokes and Fun Stuff area of the Forum……
FWIW, I did buy myself a magnet tank bag today long before I got here to examine the Forum’s words of wisdom…
Now if the snow will just melt....
DUE TO ITS TECHNICAL NATURE, I can see now why this thread has not been moved off to the Jokes and Fun Stuff area of the Forum……
FWIW, I did buy myself a magnet tank bag today long before I got here to examine the Forum’s words of wisdom…
Now if the snow will just melt....
Farkles
R.I.P. Our FJR Riding Friend
h34r: This sounds like a job for Myth Busters :assassin:
Bustanut joker
Well-known member
From what I recall the dog was fine, I however have suffered from some type of residual effects as I have a terrible need to lick my bearing, at the most inopportune times :blum:
What was this tread about???
:jester:
What was this tread about???
:jester:
AethonFJR
Well-known member
Those guys would fit right in with this thread!!!
They are about as scientific as a group of unsupervised 3rd graders….. IMHO
AethonFJR
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This thread has got to be a contender for the MOST OFF TRACT thread in the history of the Forum…… and yet so intertaining…
2WheelTiger
Chief Executive Carnivore
Bustanut joker
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Damn! Yesterday we was fifth grade drama queens, Ah progress.
:jester:
:jester:
Aren't you worried about the H2O in your saliva bonding with the Fe in your bearing, and rusting your nut?
airboss
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The birth of an urban legend, and I was there. WOW! :lol:
JamesK
Got to ride
My '89 K100RSA had an aluminum tank. It was comical to see my reaction when I tried my dad's mag tank bag on mine. No...I did not ride off with it but is was a real Buster Keaton moment.
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