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#1 Warchild

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 12:05 AM

At long last, we have a new awesome Group Buy opportunity for a complete suspension overhaul/replacement for all model year FJRs, including the 2006 models!

Product highlights/services include:

- Top-shelf rear shocks from Penske or Ohlins - your choice!

- Complete refurbishment/overhaul of your Wilbers shocks, including the replacement of your spring, if needed.

- Complete, total overhaul of your 48mm Soqi forks - using custom-made (in-house) rebound and compression kits, awesome Eibach fork springs, new seals and fork fluid. You will not believe the difference this makes in the tracking, feedback and compliance of your front end!

- For do-it-yourself folks, we will have unbelievably low pricing on the best Eibach fork springs available!

Our featured vendor:

GPSuspension.com is an outstanding Suspension Specialist organization with an awesome reputation in professional road racing community, and their reputation extends to the FJR community as well. They have "fixed" a number of Wilbers shocks that suffered from incorrect spring rates and/or blown seals, as several FJRForum members here can directly attest.

They have done a substantial amount of research and fabrications for the 2006 model year FJR, and have developed custom brackets to fit the Penske remote reservoir on the 2006 FJRs (note: the photo of the mount bracket below is a prototype; production version will be further refined and hard-anodized "clear"):





GPSuspension.com also pioneered the discovery that the Ohlins will not work on the AE model FJR due to the bracket that goes from the "soft-hard lever" to the other side of the subframe is also part of a mount bracket that holds the large aluminum ABS Modulator box, which would require significant work to remove:





They also determined that although the Ohlins shock can now be physically fitted by coming up from the bottom of the swingarm, there is the issue of the large Regulator/Rectifier that Yamaha placed in this area. It isn't known at this time if the R/R can be relocated, or attached to the Ohlins brackets, of some other work-around can be performed.

Therefore, you 2006 owners will have to opt for one of the two available Penske Racing shocks, which is still a killer shock by anyone's standards.

Fork Rebuilds:

As mentioned above, GP Suspension has created it's on custom compression and rebound kits in-house.

A Compression Kit is composed of a new compression piston, holder, shims, top hat, o-ring, comp bolt. All are new parts. A Rebound kit is composed of rebound piston, holder, piston band, shims, top hat, rebound needle, needle spring (again, all are new parts).

Below is a photo of the custom-made Rebound and Compression kits that GP Suspension has fabricated for the Soqi forks of the FJR and FZ1:





I am finalizing the last few price quotes for this Group Buy and will post up as soon as they are known.

GPSuspension wants to work with each individual customer to help guarantee the very best results possible. Located in northwest Oregon, these guys are AWESOME to work with, as you'll soon find out!


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Posted 16 November 2006 - 12:53 AM

Wow!
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Posted 16 November 2006 - 06:23 AM

Sorry if this post is redundant...I can't find the original response, but how many miles should we expect to get on a Wilburs shock before a rebuild is a good idea??
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Posted 16 November 2006 - 07:53 AM

QUOTE(Mogan @ Nov 16 2006, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry if this post is redundant...I can't find the original response, but how many miles should we expect to get on a Wilburs shock before a rebuild is a good idea??

That's largely a function of rider style and environment.... those that ride fairly aggressively and also tend to carry a lot of gear, they could easily need a rebuild as little as 15K, or so.

Others that ride a bit more relax, or primarily commute and don't tend to carry much gear, they could go 25K or more.

I would say as a general rule, you should probably look at a Wilbers overhaul somewhere in the 20K-25K range (I seem to recall Klaus mentioning that mileage figure way back during the first Wilbers GB).

But, again, if you are really exercising the shock hard via aggressive riding on rough roads while carrying a lot of gear, then 25K may be waiting too long for your setup....

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 07:55 AM

QUOTE(Warchild @ Nov 16 2006, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Mogan @ Nov 16 2006, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Sorry if this post is redundant...I can't find the original response, but how many miles should we expect to get on a Wilburs shock before a rebuild is a good idea??

That's largely a function of rider style and environment.... those that ride fairly aggressively and also tend to carry a lot of gear, they could easily need a rebuild as little as 15K, or so.

Others that ride a bit more relax, or primarily commute and don't tend to carry much gear, they could go 25K or more.

I would say as a general rule, you should probably look at a Wilbers overhaul somewhere in the 20K-25K range (I seem to recall Klaus mentioning that mileage figure way back during the first Wilbers GB).

But, again, if you are really exercising the shock hard via aggressive riding on rough roads while carrying a lot of gear, then 25K may be waiting too long for your setup....


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Posted 16 November 2006 - 09:39 AM

Thanks Warchild!!
I am so pumped about this GB. Already got the corn in a jar for this and have dealt with GP Suspension before so I know they are top shelf.

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 03:48 PM

Any more info on those fork springs?

Their website was less than informative.

Are there more than one spring rates? How do they compare to the Wilburs for spring? Are the Ohlins progressive or linear?
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Posted 16 November 2006 - 03:51 PM

Warchild,

Why do you keep coming up with ways for me to spend money on my FJR??? Keep up the good work! biggrin.gif

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 04:37 PM

Been wanting an Ohlins....
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Posted 16 November 2006 - 05:00 PM

Just an FYI, I can't speak for the '06 ABS, but my '04 ABS uses that same bracket to support one end of the ABS valve block bracket. I removed the entire hard/soft bracket and easily fabbed a small aluminum one to support the ABS valve block's bracket on the throttle side of the bike. It wasn't that hard and there have been zero issues in the last 35k or so of riding it that way.

I would imagine a similar thing could be done on the '06, but I'd have to look at one to be sure. (It looks the same from the pics above.)

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE(OCfjr @ Nov 16 2006, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would imagine a similar thing could be done on the '06, but I'd have to look at one to be sure. (It looks the same from the pics above.)

It's not, I am told... one end of the bracket (that you can't see in the above photos) is spot-welded on the 2006 models....

Update: there have been some changes to the GB; I will update this thread later tonight. One consequence of the updates is that we have to push the start of the GB to Monday, vice this Friday.

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 05:41 PM

QUOTE(Warchild @ Nov 16 2006, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(OCfjr @ Nov 16 2006, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I would imagine a similar thing could be done on the '06, but I'd have to look at one to be sure. (It looks the same from the pics above.)

It's not, I am told... one end of the bracket (that you can't see in the above photos) is spot-welded on the 2006 models....

Update: there have been some changes to the GB; I will update this thread later tonight. One consequence of the updates is that we have to push the start of the GB to Monday, vice this Friday.


What I hear you saying is that the bracket that we can see above on the end of the ABS block is spot welded to the hard/soft bracket that spans the frame, (instead of bolted on, as the earlier models have it).

So order up an '04/5 ABS block bracket and then you have a bolt on bracket for the end of the ABS block. As simple? Perhaps not. Do-able? I bet it is. All we need is a willing person and a bit of aluminum plate.

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 05:47 PM

What kind of miles is one looking at with an Ohlins or Penske before a rebuild? cool.gif









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Posted 16 November 2006 - 07:31 PM

Soooooo, does this means having to ship the bike to Oregon (gosh where is Oregon anyway; have to go find the atlas)?

or,

is there going to be a very in-depth article on "FJRTech.com"?

or,

some regional winter get-togethers?



Sounds interesting, just wondering about logistics (rivers, mountains, Mormons, wolves, etc... between here and there).

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE(6mmbr @ Nov 16 2006, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soooooo, does this means having to ship the bike to Oregon (gosh where is Oregon anyway; have to go find the atlas)?

or,

is there going to be a very in-depth article on "FJRTech.com"?

or,

some regional winter get-togethers?



Sounds interesting, just wondering about logistics (rivers, mountains, Mormons, wolves, etc... between here and there).


You could "ride in", but it's easy, peasy to change the shock and springs on the forks. Write up exists at FJRTech for the Wilbers, which is essentially the same except for the remote mount location.

Here is a write up for the fork springs - Micapeak Keyword Index

As to directions, head East on I-80 to Salt Lake City, take a right, then a left and keep going East. When you run into I-205, go South for 20 miles or so and you're there. wink.gif It's only 2200 miles or so. A couple of days on the road, easy! cool.gif

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 08:50 AM

Hey,
The easy way would be to remove your forks and ship them to GP. They will work their magic and ship you back forks that are ready to install. I imagine that is how they prefer to work it. Their shop is not overly big so there is not much room for a bunch of bikes parked around. Plus they can insure everything is installed correctly and working without leaks.

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 09:34 AM

QUOTE(650cent @ Nov 17 2006, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey,
The easy way would be to remove your forks and ship them to GP. They will work their magic and ship you back forks that are ready to install. I imagine that is how they prefer to work it. Their shop is not overly big so there is not much room for a bunch of bikes parked around. Plus they can insure everything is installed correctly and working without leaks.

Bill


Actually, they expanded into the units behind them and now have plenty of room for customer bikes, should the need arise. I was up there a few weeks ago picking some forks up. smile.gif

I agree though, if you want valving done, send your forks in to them. If you're just doing springs and oil, do it yourself, it's EASY.

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 09:48 AM

Bummer for the '06, I was really into an Ohlins....
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Posted 17 November 2006 - 09:49 AM

Price?
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Posted 17 November 2006 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE(ShinyPartsUp @ Nov 17 2006, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Price?


Awwww....crap. LOL I'm betting that if you have to ask....

On the other hand, I'd been mulling posting about how tired I am of the stock suspension beating the crap out of me over freeway expansion joints. Hard and soft setting on the rear shock seem to give the same effect. Given that I'm riding about 100 miles/day commuting now and have almost 10,000 miles on the bike, I guess I might have to do this.

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