I'll get shot for this but I don't consider the Busa a sportbike. Sure it's fast and all and I like em enough, and I'd ride one maybe but it's a giant, heavy ass, straight line jelly bean bike. 
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Just How Much Faster Is A Busa Than The Feejer?
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nusman68
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-and now to shift gears (no pun intended)....what about the ZZR1200? Makes slightly more HP than the FJR, proportionately more RWHP since it has a chain, mags all said it is even more to the sport-side of sport-touring, yet (in my area, Houston) you never see any around. When I was originally shopping (a yr. ago) before putting down my deposit, I couldn't find a *single* ZZR to see or sit on in any of my areas dealers...found (2) FJRs, though (1 new, 1 used). I still don't see any ZZRs these days....
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Got to agree with you there. The busa is over 100lbs heavier than the GSX-R1000.I'll get shot for this but I don't consider the Busa a sportbike. Sure it's fast and all and I like em enough, and I'd ride one maybe but it's a giant, heavy ass, straight line jelly bean bike.
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I don't know, I ride mine like a sport bike without too much drama. I don't forget it's a big heavy sport bike and not an R1 or a super motard and it has yet to do something I didn't expect.
I guess I'm going to have to break down, sell everything I own and buy me an R1 so I can be seriously disappointed with the FJR's handling.
MrVvrroomm
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My wife had a ZZR1200. It was a fun bike, but very rough around the edges. It would out-power the FJR anytime, anywhere. Although the spec said the ZZR weighed 60lbs. less than the FJR, you'd swear when you throw your leg over the saddle that it weighed 60lbs. MORE.
Funny thing about the ZZR too is that it didn't feel like it was more powerful in a roll-on, but it surely was. My wife replaced her ZZR with an FZ6.
Back on topic...Don't embarrass yourself trying to keep up with a 'Busa. As the Navy Seals say: "you can run, but you'll only die tired"
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this illicits a great big :shrug: from me.
in the real world how much time can you spend at the top end anyway? i like my bikes to perform in the area where they get used. i lost interest in hyper-speeds about the time i realized i wasn't made of solid titanium and that the bits that are now partially titanium complain more than they did before the enhancement.
this illicits a great big :shrug: from me.
in the real world how much time can you spend at the top end anyway? i like my bikes to perform in the area where they get used. i lost interest in hyper-speeds about the time i realized i wasn't made of solid titanium and that the bits that are now partially titanium complain more than they did before the enhancement.
bluesurf
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Been there, done that.
My FJR now has a few suspension mods, almost needless to say.
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Uh-Oh!! Dr.Evil, you are going to hate this !!!
Alot of FJR riders are riding their bikes like sportbikes.
Some of them dont's even ride with the hardcases on ---EVER!
I have seen them everywhere riding around like they are
on a sportbike on the twisties, and then cruising around
like a touring bike on the boring roads home!
Maybe thats why they call the FJR a sport-touring bike.
The ones riding like it is a sportbike and then blaming
their crash on forks or suspension are not taking
responsibility for their own inadequate piloting.
Of course, they would blame the bike!
Alot of FJR riders are riding their bikes like sportbikes.
Some of them dont's even ride with the hardcases on ---EVER!
I have seen them everywhere riding around like they are
on a sportbike on the twisties, and then cruising around
like a touring bike on the boring roads home!
Maybe thats why they call the FJR a sport-touring bike.
The ones riding like it is a sportbike and then blaming
their crash on forks or suspension are not taking
responsibility for their own inadequate piloting.
Of course, they would blame the bike!
Ah, comparing the FJR to the Busa. One of my favorite topics!
When it comes to comparisons; I think bikes are very much like cages. There's mini-vans for families; Mustang's, Vet's and Viper's for people with a need-for-speed, and a whole slew of other various boxy sedans and SUV's ranging from mild to wild, for everyone in between. Selections for comparisons need to happen carefully.
I'm very lucky, blessed, or probably both. I own both a Busa and FJR; both 2005's, and feel I have the best of both worlds. My goal was to own a comfortable, yet fast & fun, good handling touring machine that I could take on extended trips, and at the same time maintain a nice level of "sporty'ness". I also had an urge to own the fastest production motorcycle on the planet. Certainly one motorcycle wasn't going to fill both of my goals. Here's my take on the FJR and the Hayabusa.
First I'll answer the thread question; "How much faster is a Busa then the Jeefer?" The FJR has excellent acceleration, but the Busa will dust it easily. The FJR will be in the Busa's rear view mirrors nearly instantly, and remain there until the FJR is out of site. Just twisting the throttles of both these machines, while sitting in neutral, will let you know the FJR doesn't stand a chance against the Busa. The R's seem to rev so much faster on the Busa. The Busa's engine feels like its begging to be run (and run hard). In comparison, the FJR's engine provides nice "pleasant" sounding rev's, but doesn't rev up nearly as quickly. An interesting thing about the Busa engine is, once you're rolling and pore on the throttle, it NEVER seems to give up. It just keeps pulling harder and harder. Clear your path, twist the throttle, tuck, and hold the frinkin' hell on!
But getting back to the comparison, these two bikes are not designed to do the same thing. Comparing the FJR to the Hayabusa is like comparing a Lexus LS400 to the C6 Corvette. Both quick cars, but you'd never see a magazine do a comparison of them.. There's just no logic to the comparison at all. The FJR and Busa each has their pros and cons, reinforcing the basic fact that, "there's no one perfect motorcycle (or car) that can do everything perfectly." Engineering design trade-offs, are key here.
Saying all of that though, of every bike studied the specs on, and/or driven, I'd have the say the FJR comes closest to being the most perfect "comprimize" motorcycle there is (IMO).
I love both bikes for what they do. As far as I'm concerned the FJR has really nice advantages over any other sport/touring machine; nice adjustable wind protection, decent level of comfort, excellent acceleration (plenty enough to keep things fun), good solid handling, and with the top box and hard bags installed - plenty of storage. I'd select the FJR over the Busa if I was taking a longer trip, (in a NY second!). The Busa is not a super-comfortable machine. It's been my experience that the Busa is a bike that I had to "learn to adjust to", (but it's well worth it!).
If you throw all logic out the window (comfort, storage, wind protection, and other practicalities), and speak purely "fun factor". On a scale from 1 to 10, I'd rate the FJR at most an 8. The Hayabusa, although not nearly as comfortable as my FJR, definitely rates a 10 in my book. R1's and other 1 liter lighter sport bikes probably rate right up there too, but don't they have the rock solid stability that the Busa has, especially at its higher speeds. Then again, 1 liter sport-bikes have a high flickability factor, which some find a priority. It's all about design trade-off's.
I find the hardest thing about piloting the Busa is properly managing the right grip. It'll definitely bite the s### out of ya (as in: quickly hurt or kill) if you're not careful to maintain a healthy respect for its power. (There's not that concern when I ride my FJR.) But as your experience and confidence grows it's impossible to explain how exciting this bike is to pilot! It's my guess that most people's courage runs out waaaay before its acceleration does. Twist the throttle hard on the Busa and the acceleration will impress (and scare) just about anyone.
After a ride on the FJR I feel really good; park it, maybe give a once-over-cleaning, then go about my business. After a ride on the Busa I find myself smiling for a couple of hours afterwards. I clean it to where there's not even a sign of dust on it, preparing it for its next flight. (Then sneak into the garage now and then to take another glance at it.)
When it comes to comparisons; I think bikes are very much like cages. There's mini-vans for families; Mustang's, Vet's and Viper's for people with a need-for-speed, and a whole slew of other various boxy sedans and SUV's ranging from mild to wild, for everyone in between. Selections for comparisons need to happen carefully.
I'm very lucky, blessed, or probably both. I own both a Busa and FJR; both 2005's, and feel I have the best of both worlds. My goal was to own a comfortable, yet fast & fun, good handling touring machine that I could take on extended trips, and at the same time maintain a nice level of "sporty'ness". I also had an urge to own the fastest production motorcycle on the planet. Certainly one motorcycle wasn't going to fill both of my goals. Here's my take on the FJR and the Hayabusa.
First I'll answer the thread question; "How much faster is a Busa then the Jeefer?" The FJR has excellent acceleration, but the Busa will dust it easily. The FJR will be in the Busa's rear view mirrors nearly instantly, and remain there until the FJR is out of site. Just twisting the throttles of both these machines, while sitting in neutral, will let you know the FJR doesn't stand a chance against the Busa. The R's seem to rev so much faster on the Busa. The Busa's engine feels like its begging to be run (and run hard). In comparison, the FJR's engine provides nice "pleasant" sounding rev's, but doesn't rev up nearly as quickly. An interesting thing about the Busa engine is, once you're rolling and pore on the throttle, it NEVER seems to give up. It just keeps pulling harder and harder. Clear your path, twist the throttle, tuck, and hold the frinkin' hell on!
But getting back to the comparison, these two bikes are not designed to do the same thing. Comparing the FJR to the Hayabusa is like comparing a Lexus LS400 to the C6 Corvette. Both quick cars, but you'd never see a magazine do a comparison of them.. There's just no logic to the comparison at all. The FJR and Busa each has their pros and cons, reinforcing the basic fact that, "there's no one perfect motorcycle (or car) that can do everything perfectly." Engineering design trade-offs, are key here.
Saying all of that though, of every bike studied the specs on, and/or driven, I'd have the say the FJR comes closest to being the most perfect "comprimize" motorcycle there is (IMO).
I love both bikes for what they do. As far as I'm concerned the FJR has really nice advantages over any other sport/touring machine; nice adjustable wind protection, decent level of comfort, excellent acceleration (plenty enough to keep things fun), good solid handling, and with the top box and hard bags installed - plenty of storage. I'd select the FJR over the Busa if I was taking a longer trip, (in a NY second!). The Busa is not a super-comfortable machine. It's been my experience that the Busa is a bike that I had to "learn to adjust to", (but it's well worth it!).
If you throw all logic out the window (comfort, storage, wind protection, and other practicalities), and speak purely "fun factor". On a scale from 1 to 10, I'd rate the FJR at most an 8. The Hayabusa, although not nearly as comfortable as my FJR, definitely rates a 10 in my book. R1's and other 1 liter lighter sport bikes probably rate right up there too, but don't they have the rock solid stability that the Busa has, especially at its higher speeds. Then again, 1 liter sport-bikes have a high flickability factor, which some find a priority. It's all about design trade-off's.
I find the hardest thing about piloting the Busa is properly managing the right grip. It'll definitely bite the s### out of ya (as in: quickly hurt or kill) if you're not careful to maintain a healthy respect for its power. (There's not that concern when I ride my FJR.) But as your experience and confidence grows it's impossible to explain how exciting this bike is to pilot! It's my guess that most people's courage runs out waaaay before its acceleration does. Twist the throttle hard on the Busa and the acceleration will impress (and scare) just about anyone.
After a ride on the FJR I feel really good; park it, maybe give a once-over-cleaning, then go about my business. After a ride on the Busa I find myself smiling for a couple of hours afterwards. I clean it to where there's not even a sign of dust on it, preparing it for its next flight. (Then sneak into the garage now and then to take another glance at it.)
DrEvil777
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Fastfeejer;
I ride my FJR like it was meant to, but a man (or woman) has got to know their and their bike's limitations.
It's a free country - do whatever the hell you want. If you want to ride the FJR like a sport bike, go right ahead. Just remember, I only take good insurance!
My take home point is ride well. The FJR is a great bike, that's why I own one. Enjoy the FJR and have a blast with it.
I ride my FJR like it was meant to, but a man (or woman) has got to know their and their bike's limitations.
It's a free country - do whatever the hell you want. If you want to ride the FJR like a sport bike, go right ahead. Just remember, I only take good insurance!
My take home point is ride well. The FJR is a great bike, that's why I own one. Enjoy the FJR and have a blast with it.
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He just asked how much faster it is in the straights.Just curious as to the difference on a straight away, what is the performance difference?? Are they close in pickup?
About 35 mph. stock vs stock
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