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What did the Rotella oils add to make them “ clutch friendly “ as you put it? I’ recently purchased an FJR1300ES with the auto clutch and the guy had been using Rotella T4 I was always told to use only oils specially designed for motorcycles with clutch/engine/gearbox all combined to prevent slippage and as you note gear pressures being higher. Was going to use Castrol Brad oils but unsure if I should just stick with the Shell Rotella types T4 T5 or T6, what’s your advice?

 
What did the Rotella oils add to make them “ clutch friendly “ as you put it? I’ recently purchased an FJR1300ES with the auto clutch and the guy had been using Rotella T4 I was always told to use only oils specially designed for motorcycles with clutch/engine/gearbox all combined to prevent slippage and as you note gear pressures being higher. Was going to use Castrol Brad oils but unsure if I should just stick with the Shell Rotella types T4 T5 or T6, what’s your advice?
It is what they DON'T add to make the oils wet-clutch-friendly. Certain "Energy-conserving" additives can make a wet clutch slip. Many automotive oils are considered to be incompatible with most motorcycle clutches although most of the stories are not particularly well substantiated. Real or old-wives tale? Maybe some of both but I will err on the side of caution. I use the Rotella T6 synthetic and have used the dino Rotella as well. Never any clutch issues in close to 300,000 km on my '07.

(I see you are in Burlington Ontario - I lived there in the 1980's!)

Edit to add: Any motorcycle-specific conventional or synthetic oil in the appropriate viscosity range should be OK. The Diesel Rotella has been popular because of higher ZDDP (zinc dialkylydithiophosphate) additive levels, a rating (JASO) that makes it compatible with the wet clutch and lower cost than most motorcycle-specific oils - although the cost advantage is less than it used to be.

 
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Many of us want to baby our machines and provide it the best fluids possible, within a reasonable price.

For many years I was a firm believer in Rotella 5w40 full synthetic (now called T6) for just about everything with an engine. I ran it in my lawnmower, snowblower, motorcycles and high output turbocharged SAABs. They all loved it, and the best part was that the price per gallon at Walmart was so good.

Then other people started jumping on the bandwagon and Walmart figured out that they could raise the price on it and still make money. Especially with it sitting on the shelf next to the 5 quart jugs of mobile 1. But when I did the math I realized the Mobil 1 was actually cheaper, so now the bikes get the 15w50 Mobile 1.

But, Mobil 1s popularity may be a problem now too. For years their 0w40 European formula was always rated BMW LL-01, which means that BMW would allow you to go 15000 miles between changes on their cars (not that I would). However, recently that same oil has been reformulated and now the LL-01 rating is conspicuously absent. Time to move over to Castrol or Valvoline I guess, until they become too popular and either raise their prices too much or reformulate to a lower standard.

Its like oil brand whack-a-mole I tell ya!

 
I just bought Rotella T6 for all 16 of my motorcycle school bikes yesterday. $21.00 per gallon with a $7.00 rebate per gallon with 4 rebate limit for a real cost of $14.00 per gallon.

 
To Mikesgts1000: I've been running nothing but Rotella T-6 full synth in my 2009 SE since it was new and it now has 85,000 trouble free, sticky clutch-leverless miles. BTW, I LOVE my SE, had a 2004 that I accidentally traded for the SE and it had 71,000 miles with nothing but T-6. I use it in my Vespa 300GT Super and my DR250 as well.

 
Thanks for the info McRuss, think I’ll be using it the next oil change and from now on. I to have been enjoying the clutchless FJR for this last year, bought it to see if it would extend my riding years as I was having issues with arthritis in my hands so was getting painful on long rides and around town on my old Honda ST1300. Got to sell the old ST now as I love the Yamaha, I’ll be sorry to see it go but don’t need two bikes.( so the wife says!)

 
Hi guys !!

This topic is endless but i need a confirmations from you guys ?

I’m about to make my first oil change on my 2006

I’m I safe to put the : Shell Rotella T6 SAE 5W-40 “ heavy duty diesel engine oil “ ?

God bless America for oil prices

I’m ashamed to say back home oil is no less than 100 dollars for 1 gallon and a quarter

Thanks and a happy Mother’s Day to all

 
Hi guys !! This topic is endless but i need a confirmations from you guys ? I’m about to make my first oil change on my 2006 I’m I safe to put the : Shell Rotella T6 SAE 5W-40 “ heavy duty diesel engine oil “ ? God bless America for oil prices I’m ashamed to say back home oil is no less than 100 dollars for 1 gallon and a quarter Thanks and a happy Mother’s Day to all
I have used it for probably 200,000 of the 300,000 km that are on my 2007 FJR. No issues at all. Lots of other choices but that is a high quality synthetic oil at a good price compared to synthetic motorcycle oils.
 
and i believe there is currently a $7 rebate for the gallon container of t6.

i just ordered via amazon.

$21 - $7 = $14

hard to go wrong for that price!

thumbs up.

rob

 
There is a $1.50 coupon on Amazon. Just check the coupon box before adding to your cart.

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Can you prove a link for it on amazon for $21? $22.47 is currently the lowest price I see.</p></blockquote>

 
Just noticed that the new Rotella T-6 doesn't list that it meets JASO-MA anymore. JASO-MA is the Japanese spec for engine with wet clutch. The older rotella T6 specifically said it met JASO MA.

 
Just noticed that the new Rotella T-6 doesn't list that it meets JASO-MA anymore. JASO-MA is the Japanese spec for engine with wet clutch. The older rotella T6 specifically said it met JASO MA.
According to the following download, it does for the 5W40 T6 fully synthetic. Same as always!
https://rotella.shell.com/products/full-synthetic-and-blend-oil/t6-full-synthetic/_jcr_content/productDetails.stream/1506811860834/b1efec99b9e83f216e38df79c5353f4c43d17a2677da8dd08400c13d51318343/t6-5w-40.pdf

They apparently have another T6 version that is identified as a 5W30 multi-vehicle (not specifically diesel) that does not appear to meet the JASO M or M2 designation (or at least hasn't been specifically tested to that standard). The 5W30 is a little thinner than I might prefer to run on the FJR in hot weather although I'm sure it would work. See download for the multi-vehicle version. It is possible that this version might contain additives that are not wet clutch friendly.

https://rotella.shell.com/products/full-synthetic-and-blend-oil/shell-rotella-t6-multi-vehicle-5w-30-full-synthetic-heavy-duty/_jcr_content/par/textimage.stream/1506812713065/fdb544f460a0bb6f599de1d0d0e1a9396fb13c7280b441a74b7a7e5d5e61bfdf/t6-multi-vehicle-5w-30.pdf

 
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There is a $1.50 coupon on Amazon. Just check the coupon box before adding to your cart.
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="2wheels4fun" data-cid="1397374" data-time="1527453500"><p>

Can you prove a link for it on amazon for $21? $22.47 is currently the lowest price I see.</p></blockquote>
Thanks. Just ordered it. Had a little trouble getting coupon working but got it in the end working.

 
Thanks. I was looking at the back of the picture of the Rotella 5W-40 jug on Amazon and it didn't say anything about JASO. Your link to the PDF does.

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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="mikerider" data-cid="1397381"><p>Just noticed that the new Rotella T-6 doesn't list that it meets JASO-MA anymore. JASO-MA is the Japanese spec for engine with wet clutch. The older rotella T6 specifically said it met JASO MA.</p></blockquote>According to the following download, it does for the 5W40 T6 fully synthetic. Same as always!<br />

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<a href='https://rotella.shell.com/products/full-synthetic-and-blend-oil/t6-full-synthetic/_jcr_content/productDetails.stream/1506811860834/b1efec99b9e83f216e38df79c5353f4c43d17a2677da8dd08400c13d51318343/t6-5w-40.pdf'>https://rotella.shell.com/products/full-synthetic-and-blend-oil/t6-full-synthetic/_jcr_content/productDetails.stream/1506811860834/b1efec99b9e83f216e38df79c5353f4c43d17a2677da8dd08400c13d51318343/t6-5w-40.pdf</a><br />

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They apparently have another T6 version that is identified as a 5W30 multi-vehicle (not specifically diesel) that does not appear to meet the JASO M or M2 designation (or at least hasn't been specifically tested to that standard). The 5W30 is a little thinner than I might prefer to run on the FJR in hot weather although I'm sure it would work. See download for the multi-vehicle version. It is possible that this version might contain additives that are not wet clutch friendly.<br />

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<a href='https://rotella.shell.com/products/full-synthetic-and-blend-oil/shell-rotella-t6-multi-vehicle-5w-30-full-synthetic-heavy-duty/_jcr_content/par/textimage.stream/1506812713065/fdb544f460a0bb6f599de1d0d0e1a9396fb13c7280b441a74b7a7e5d5e61bfdf/t6-multi-vehicle-5w-30.pdf'>https://rotella.shell.com/products/full-synthetic-and-blend-oil/shell-rotella-t6-multi-vehicle-5w-30-full-synthetic-heavy-duty/_jcr_content/par/textimage.stream/1506812713065/fdb544f460a0bb6f599de1d0d0e1a9396fb13c7280b441a74b7a7e5d5e61bfdf/t6-multi-vehicle-5w-30.pdf</a></p></blockquote>

 
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