So very jealous. I've longed for a Custom II Desert Warrior for years.
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Currently considering the Chiappa Rhino (.40) or Sig P238 (.380) for CCW
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1911
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"2. The use of reloaded, "remanufactured," handloaded
or other non-standard ammunition
voids all warranties. Reloading is a science
and improperly loaded ammunition can be
extremely dangerous. Severe damage to the
firearm and serious injury to the shooter or to
others may result. Always use ammunition
that complies with the industry performance
standards established by the Sporting Arms
and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute, Inc.
of the United States (SAAMI). For best results,
we recommend the use of jacketed round...."
From p16 of the Kimber full size 1911 owners manual https://www.kimberamerica.com/media/wysiwyg/manual-download/1911Fullsize45.pdf
All mfgs exclude damage CAUSED by faulty ammo. Kimber's the only one that I know that voids the warranty at the first reload fired-even if the ammo doesn't cause a problem. Seems weird given Kimber's rep for quality. Wouldn't keep me from buying or reloading for a Kimber-The Grand Raptor is one that I lust for. I just find this an interesting little tidbit and assume it was inserted by the legal dept.
HotRodZilla
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Unless a reload blew up the gun, there's no way they'd know if reloads had ever been fired through it or not. We had two different brands of factory ammo here that caused problems.
One brand blew up a Glock in a Cadet's hand. Pretty sure it was a squib round that lodged in the barrel. That kept the gun out of battery for the next round. He cleared the malfunction and the gun closed up. Pretty sure a bad crimp let the round push into the case. When he fired the gun, the magazine blew out of the bottom and the gun cracked all around the mag well and trigger guard. I was impressed at how well it held together. His hand stung, but no damage.
The second brand blew up two Sig 1911's. No idea what happened there, but I wonder why both damaged guns were Sigs. Maybe random rounds that were just a hair too hot. This manufacturer has a stellar reputation, so we were surprised.
In all three cases, the ammo manufacturer replaced the guns. If a homemade reload blows up a gun, it's the manufacturer's fault...hence...
I run tons of reloads through my competition guns, and never had an issue. Use good loading equipment and life should be fine. Cheap out and we get what we pay for.
One brand blew up a Glock in a Cadet's hand. Pretty sure it was a squib round that lodged in the barrel. That kept the gun out of battery for the next round. He cleared the malfunction and the gun closed up. Pretty sure a bad crimp let the round push into the case. When he fired the gun, the magazine blew out of the bottom and the gun cracked all around the mag well and trigger guard. I was impressed at how well it held together. His hand stung, but no damage.
The second brand blew up two Sig 1911's. No idea what happened there, but I wonder why both damaged guns were Sigs. Maybe random rounds that were just a hair too hot. This manufacturer has a stellar reputation, so we were surprised.
In all three cases, the ammo manufacturer replaced the guns. If a homemade reload blows up a gun, it's the manufacturer's fault...hence...
I run tons of reloads through my competition guns, and never had an issue. Use good loading equipment and life should be fine. Cheap out and we get what we pay for.
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We did everything we could think of (ramp, etc.) and that CC didn't even like FMJ.
My Pro Carry II is my CHL of choice. It's been dead nuts reliable for more than 20 years. The Super Match II is so nice it brings a tear to your eye. I have read a few people who have been unhappy with their Kimbers but my brother and I can't imagine why. Out of the box they are what Colt takes a lot of money and tinkering to accomplish.
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FJRay
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I just ran a couple boxes of hand loads through it and no issues. Pretty light loads 6grns of 7625 with a 230 grn hard cast lead bullet. Did a little over travel adjusting and sight work. Off a bit of a rest it shoots about 2" at 50 feet. That"s as far as I can get indoors. I think it's a keeper.
RJAMT
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Got the same Kimber Tactical Custom a few months ago. It sits next to its cousin the Ultra CDP and I love them both.
Always thought people were crazy spending that kind of money on pistols, much less on one designed a hundred years ago.
Then I fired one. Don't do that unless you are prepared to purchase!
Always thought people were crazy spending that kind of money on pistols, much less on one designed a hundred years ago.
Then I fired one. Don't do that unless you are prepared to purchase!
bigjohnsd
2021 BMW R1250GSA
I have a Stainless Steel Taurus PT1911 which comes with all the bells and whistles for ~$600.
I've run about 3,000 rounds through it, mostly FMJ, but some Remington HP self defense rounds with only one FTF in the first magazine full I put through the gun.
I can shoot about 2" groups at 50' from a rest with the cheapo Winchester 230 gr FMJ purchased at Wally World.
Compared to the old worn out pistols I was used to in a he Navy this gun is outstanding.
An awful lot of weapon for less than $600!
https://www.cabelas.com/product/Taurus-PT-Review/1096835.uts
I've run about 3,000 rounds through it, mostly FMJ, but some Remington HP self defense rounds with only one FTF in the first magazine full I put through the gun.
I can shoot about 2" groups at 50' from a rest with the cheapo Winchester 230 gr FMJ purchased at Wally World.
Compared to the old worn out pistols I was used to in a he Navy this gun is outstanding.
An awful lot of weapon for less than $600!
https://www.cabelas.com/product/Taurus-PT-Review/1096835.uts
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FJRay
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Nothing wrong with a Taurus. I have a couple PT92's in 9mm. Their warranty is great. I bought mine used and they sent me the repair parts no charge.
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1911
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nothing wrong with a s&w m&p either
https://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/06/austin-cop-sure-shot-stopped-crazed-gunman/
https://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/06/austin-cop-sure-shot-stopped-crazed-gunman/
FJRay
Well-known member
Tons of good ones out there but I like the 1911 platform. I have a fair number of choices in the safe but the 1911's get more use than the others. For cheap plinking in the shop I have a 22lr conversion for my series 80 Colt. Someday I'll get one of the Ruger 22/45 target pistols.
dcarver
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Warpdrv
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You owe it to yourself to get one - suppressed with a good quality red dot on top - out of all my guns, this one always seems to be the favorite for everyone...
G Squared
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I looked hard at Kimber during multiple buying cycles. Been an avid 1911 and a .45 fan for many years. But recently became interested in ballistics/capacity upgrade. Did the unthinkable (to me) and converted to Glock and more importantly, the 10 mm. Kimber has (along with Colt and STI) a beautiful pistol in 10 mm. But in a single stack capacity only. Shortcoming of the 1911. Yes, my Glock is ugly, so I'm not as anal about how I treat it. Double stack mag holds 16 rounds and in 10 mm. Wonderful weapon. With me anytime on bike. ( or more correctly, with me anytime period.). Hard to go back now. I'm hooked.
Geezer
Parsimonious Curmudgeon
Glock was the first center fire pistol I ever shot. It was a .45 belonging to a friend. I believe it was a model 21. I liked it very much. The big grip fit well in my hand and the recoil was mild. The funny trigger with the small 'safety' blade in the middle of the trigger was interesting but not a problem.
I remember that the way to get the best accuracy was to only allow the trigger to return part way.
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steveoreno
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I've owned Glocks, and had a Para Ordnance LTC as well but my all time favorite pistol is the CZ-75. I have owned several and wish I kept everyone of them. They are accurate out of the box and extremely reliable and I love the way the pistol fits my hand.
HotRodZilla
GOD BLESS AMERICA
A Glock is not a single-action pistol, but there was a lot of confusion back in 1996. Triggers as a whole have gotten much better. Glocks are not the best, but definately not the worst. They are easy to train people to use, and the reset is very distinct and not overly long. Some other manufacturers have had to revise things to get their guns to shoot as consistently.
The best cure for a Glock trigger is a 3lb conversion. Glock used to offer one, but stopped, so most people go through Brownell's. My department Glock has that trigger, but it's still night and day from my Springfield. Nothing holds a candle to a well built single stack 1911 trigger.
The best cure for a Glock trigger is a 3lb conversion. Glock used to offer one, but stopped, so most people go through Brownell's. My department Glock has that trigger, but it's still night and day from my Springfield. Nothing holds a candle to a well built single stack 1911 trigger.
bergmen
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In my case a double charged reload (my friends loads, he was with me) blew up my Glock 36. I went back to the shop I bought it from (friend insisted on paying for it) and the shop owner suggested I send it back to Glock to see if they could repair it. I did, they did and it was they repaired under warranty. I was never asked about the ammo used, all I paid was shipping.
Dan
wheatonFJR
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Not a gun owner here...when you say "blew up the gun"... what are you saying? What happens?
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