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This post is for all of you that regularly ride when it's colder than 40 degrees and isn't necessarily intended for those who need occasional warmth and can get by with heated grips.

Many years ago, if I wanted to ride throughout most of the year, I wore ski gloves with original Vetter Hippo Hands covering my handgrips.

Eventually, I discovered heated gloves and began with a pair from Widder that allowed me to sell the old Hippo Hands and still enjoy warm hands during winter riding. Wanting something less bulky, I decided to try Gerbing's gloves but had Gordon Gerbing "double-wire" the gloves to increase the heat so that I wouldn't have to keep the Jacket Liner at maximum heat just to warm my hands properly as this preceded dual controls by many years.

Over the years, I tried newer Widder gloves, two different styles of Gerbing's gloves and finally... Warm & Safe Ultimate Touring Gloves but none of them provided as much warmth as I remembered experiencing with the old, "double-wired" Gerbing's while riding a GL1500 Goldwing.

A week ago, I stopped by a BMW dealership and tried a few sets of heated glove liners from Gerbing's, First Gear, and Powerlet and have finally found a combination that exceeds the heat and comfort of those old Gerbing's gloves. Powerlet Heated Glove Liners + Tour Master Winter Elite II Gloves + V-Strom Hand Guards. HOLY SHIT!

Powerlet does something with the way that they wire the liners that makes them warmer than anything that I've ever felt on my hands and surrounding them with a glove like the Tour Master Winter Elite II took hand warmth to an entirely different level.

For everyone who isn't nuts enough to ride when it's close to, and below freezing, the Warm & Safe Ultimate Touring Gloves would be great since they are pretty warm, aren't bulky, are very flexible, have Kevlar, have armored knuckle protection and are waterproof but.... they're not really designed for extended riding in freezing temperatures.

If you believe that there's no such thing as bad weather for motorcycling but only inappropriate clothing... you might try the Jacket Liner of your choice (they're all really good), the heat controller of your choice, and the Powerlet Heated Glove Liners inside of your favorite, warmest winter riding gloves.

 
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For everyone who isn't nuts enough to ride when it's close to, and below freezing, the Warm & Safe Ultimate Touring Gloves would be great since they are pretty warm, aren't bulky, are very flexible, have Kevlar, have armored knuckle protection and are waterproof but.... they're not really designed for extended riding in freezing temperatures.
Since I just bought these gloves and have worn them once, I'll bite. Why not?

 
For everyone who isn't nuts enough to ride when it's close to, and below freezing, the Warm & Safe Ultimate Touring Gloves would be great since they are pretty warm, aren't bulky, are very flexible, have Kevlar, have armored knuckle protection and are waterproof but.... they're not really designed for extended riding in freezing temperatures.
Since I just bought these gloves and have worn them once, I'll bite. Why not?
Because Mike Coan (the guy who owns Warm & Safe) says so. :) He wrote: "The Warm & Safe "Ultimate" Gloves have changed. From the beginning I have been trying to make a heated glove that met both the needs of the winter biker and my desire for gloves that were designed for 3 seasons. I have finally found a way to do it. Make two different gloves! We now have the Ultimate Touring and the Ultimate Sport. But none of our gloves are deep winter gloves!" Linky

In my post, I tried to be very clear in saying that gloves like Warm & Safe are excellent gloves except for extending riding in temperatures that are around or below freezing. The feeling of warmth is very subjective and Warm & Safe or Gerbing's gloves are simply not warm enough to suit ME. YMMV

 
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Warm N Safe also sells a glove liner (do they make the one for Powerlet?) I would think it serves the same purpose. I plan to use a set of liners with my Olympia gloves. $47.50 for a liner sounds like a bargain.

 
Warm N Safe also sells a glove liner (do they make the one for Powerlet?) I would think it serves the same purpose. I plan to use a set of liners with my Olympia gloves. $47.50 for a liner sounds like a bargain.

Because Powerlet sells Heat Trollers and Jacket Liners made by Warm & Safe, as does First Gear, I thought the same thing.

The BMW dealer told me that Powerlet wired their own heated glove liners and did something differently than the Gerbing's or Warm & Safe liners which cause them to be feel warmer.

He wasn't kidding. The Powerlet liners give off more heat that a prom date. They feel noticeably warmer than the Gerbing's or Warm & Safe units and that's what I need in Michigan. However, if I lived in your neck of the woods, I'd be very satisfied with any one of the available brands.

 
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Warm N Safe also sells a glove liner (do they make the one for Powerlet?) I would think it serves the same purpose. I plan to use a set of liners with my Olympia gloves. $47.50 for a liner sounds like a bargain.

Because Powerlet sells Heat Trollers and Jacket Liners made by Warm & Safe, as does First Gear, I thought the same thing.

The BMW dealer told me that Powerlet wired their own heated glove liners and did something differently than the Gerbing's or Warm & Safe liners which cause them to be feel warmer.

He wasn't kidding. The Powerlet liners give off more heat that a prom date. They feel noticeably warmer than the Gerbing's or Warm & Safe units and that's what I need in Michigan....
Good info...thanks for sharing.

 
Not to derail this thread or to detract from the recommendations offered, but for what it's worth, and given this,

This post is for all of you that regularly ride when it's colder than 40 degrees and isn't necessarily intended for those who need occasional warmth and can get by with heated grips.
For what it's worth, I ride year round in Oregon, and it ain't Michigan by any stretch, but this last week it's been freezing fog the entire week. All of my riding this week has been between 21 degrees and 34 degrees. Mostly in the 27-29 degree range. I commute 45 miles one-way, usually takes me a little over an hour. At the end of my commute, i feel i could keep on riding, and wish i could rather then go into work :) The only power heat I have *is* heated grips. At 21 degrees I am comfortable with Pantagonia capilene 3 base layer top and bottom, regular pullover sweater, and either a light windbreaker + transit jacket or firstgear leather jacket with insulated liner on top, and jeans and transit or firstgear leather pants on bottom, with Firstgear TPG glacier gloves to hold in the heat from the heated grips. I find this setup to be adequate, and far preferable to the Gerbing heated liner and gloves I briefly tried. Hated fiddling with all the wires and plugs and then ending up with hot spots on the liner and pressure points from the gloves where the wires cut across my knuckles. I don't even have the V-Strom grip shields, and I use a short windshield. My only 'problem' this week has been needing to stop and scrape the ice off my faceshield occasionally. Of course different people have different ideas of comfortable, and some people naturally generate more body heat then others, so like I said, this is just fwiw, but it *is* possible to ride for extended periods in below freezing temps without heated gear. Your mileage may vary :)

 
Not to derail this thread or to detract from the recommendations offered, but for what it's worth, and given this,

This post is for all of you that regularly ride when it's colder than 40 degrees and isn't necessarily intended for those who need occasional warmth and can get by with heated grips.
For what it's worth, I ride year round in Oregon, and it ain't Michigan by any stretch, but this last week it's been freezing fog the entire week. All of my riding this week has been between 21 degrees and 34 degrees. Mostly in the 27-29 degree range. I commute 45 miles one-way, usually takes me a little over an hour. At the end of my commute, i feel i could keep on riding, and wish i could rather then go into work :) The only power heat I have *is* heated grips. At 21 degrees I am comfortable with Pantagonia capilene 3 base layer top and bottom, regular pullover sweater, and either a light windbreaker + transit jacket or firstgear leather jacket with insulated liner on top, and jeans and transit or firstgear leather pants on bottom, with Firstgear TPG glacier gloves to hold in the heat from the heated grips. I find this setup to be adequate, and far preferable to the Gerbing heated liner and gloves I briefly tried. Hated fiddling with all the wires and plugs and then ending up with hot spots on the liner and pressure points from the gloves where the wires cut across my knuckles. I don't even have the V-Strom grip shields, and I use a short windshield. My only 'problem' this week has been needing to stop and scrape the ice off my faceshield occasionally. Of course different people have different ideas of comfortable, and some people naturally generate more body heat then others, so like I said, this is just fwiw, but it *is* possible to ride for extended periods in below freezing temps without heated gear. Your mileage may vary :)
You are an abomination! I NEED heated gear below 40 degrees for any extended riding.

Who makes heated 'glove liners' besides Powerlet. I didn't see any on Warm-N-Safe's website.

 
Not to derail this thread or to detract from the recommendations offered, but for what it's worth, and given this,

This post is for all of you that regularly ride when it's colder than 40 degrees and isn't necessarily intended for those who need occasional warmth and can get by with heated grips.
For what it's worth, I ride year round in Oregon, and it ain't Michigan by any stretch, but this last week it's been freezing fog the entire week. All of my riding this week has been between 21 degrees and 34 degrees. Mostly in the 27-29 degree range. I commute 45 miles one-way, usually takes me a little over an hour. At the end of my commute, i feel i could keep on riding, and wish i could rather then go into work :) The only power heat I have *is* heated grips. At 21 degrees I am comfortable with Pantagonia capilene 3 base layer top and bottom, regular pullover sweater, and either a light windbreaker + transit jacket or firstgear leather jacket with insulated liner on top, and jeans and transit or firstgear leather pants on bottom, with Firstgear TPG glacier gloves to hold in the heat from the heated grips. I find this setup to be adequate, and far preferable to the Gerbing heated liner and gloves I briefly tried. Hated fiddling with all the wires and plugs and then ending up with hot spots on the liner and pressure points from the gloves where the wires cut across my knuckles. I don't even have the V-Strom grip shields, and I use a short windshield. My only 'problem' this week has been needing to stop and scrape the ice off my faceshield occasionally. Of course different people have different ideas of comfortable, and some people naturally generate more body heat then others, so like I said, this is just fwiw, but it *is* possible to ride for extended periods in below freezing temps without heated gear. Your mileage may vary :)


You are an abomination! I NEED heated gear below 40 degrees for any extended riding.

Who makes heated 'glove liners' besides Powerlet. I didn't see any on Warm-N-Safe's website.

Here you go Skoot! WnS glove liner

 
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Not to derail this thread or to detract from the recommendations offered, but for what it's worth, and given this,

This post is for all of you that regularly ride when it's colder than 40 degrees and isn't necessarily intended for those who need occasional warmth and can get by with heated grips.
For what it's worth, I ride year round in Oregon, and it ain't Michigan by any stretch, but this last week it's been freezing fog the entire week. All of my riding this week has been between 21 degrees and 34 degrees. Mostly in the 27-29 degree range. I commute 45 miles one-way, usually takes me a little over an hour. At the end of my commute, i feel i could keep on riding, and wish i could rather then go into work :) The only power heat I have *is* heated grips. At 21 degrees I am comfortable with Pantagonia capilene 3 base layer top and bottom, regular pullover sweater, and either a light windbreaker + transit jacket or firstgear leather jacket with insulated liner on top, and jeans and transit or firstgear leather pants on bottom, with Firstgear TPG glacier gloves to hold in the heat from the heated grips. I find this setup to be adequate, and far preferable to the Gerbing heated liner and gloves I briefly tried. Hated fiddling with all the wires and plugs and then ending up with hot spots on the liner and pressure points from the gloves where the wires cut across my knuckles. I don't even have the V-Strom grip shields, and I use a short windshield. My only 'problem' this week has been needing to stop and scrape the ice off my faceshield occasionally. Of course different people have different ideas of comfortable, and some people naturally generate more body heat then others, so like I said, this is just fwiw, but it *is* possible to ride for extended periods in below freezing temps without heated gear. Your mileage may vary :)


You are an abomination! I NEED heated gear below 40 degrees for any extended riding.

Who makes heated 'glove liners' besides Powerlet. I didn't see any on Warm-N-Safe's website.

Here you go Skoot! WnS glove liner
Thanks. His website sucks.

 
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