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Florida Supreme Court: Parents Cannot Sign Binding Liability Waivers For Kids Who Race

Dec 29, 2008,

Parents cannot waive the right of a child injured in a commercial event to file lawsuits, the Florida Supreme Court ruled earlier this month.

The ruling may have a significant impact on AMA Pro Racing, particularly its new SuperSport class, which is designed to feature riders as young as 16 years old, when the series comes to Daytona. For most purposes, Florida law defines children as anyone under 18.

The December 11 ruling stems from a May 10, 2003 accident involving a 14-year-old boy who was killed while jumping an ATV at an off-road motorsports park. The child’s father had signed a “release and waiver of liability, assumption of risk, and indemnity agreement,” according to the ruling. However a representative of the child’s estate stepped forward and filed a lawsuit for wrongful death against the park’s operators.

A majority of the Florida Supreme Court justices said, in ruling that the lawsuit could go forward, that the waiver signed by the father is “unenforceable.”

“We hold that a pre-injury release executed by a parent on behalf of a minor child is unenforceable against the minor or the minor’s estate in a tort action arising from injuries resulting from participation in a commercial activity,” the majority opinion states. “It cannot be presumed that a parent who has decided to voluntarily risk a minor child’s physical well-being is acting in the child’s best interest.

“Furthermore, we find that there is injustice when a parent agrees to waive the tort claims of a minor child and deprive the child of the right to legal relief when the child is injured as a result of another party’s negligence. When a parent executes such a release and a child is injured, the provider of the activity escapes liability while the parent is left to deal with the financial burden of an injured child. If the parent cannot afford to bear that burden, the parties who suffer are the child, other family members, and the people of the State who will be called on to bear that financial burden. Therefore, when a parent decides to execute a pre-injury release on behalf of a minor child, the parent is not protecting the welfare of the child, but is instead protecting the interests of the activity provider.”

AMA Pro Racing officials did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment on the ruling. But Henry DeGouw, operator of CCS Florida, says that the ruling could have a wide-ranging impact on motorcycle racing of all types in the state – and impact non-racing activities as well.

“I don’t know how sweeping that is. At this point, I don’t know,” DeGouw told Roadracing World.

CCS Florida allows riders as young as 12, and 16-year-old riders with a Pro license can race 600cc and even 1000cc machines.

“I know this is being looked at (by CCS),” DeGouw says. “It’s not going to affect us immediately, but as to how this all comes out, this would affect Daytona, and any track in Florida. It all depends – this could affect football, anything where parents can sign a waiver.”

The potentially wide sweep of the ruling drew the attention of dissenting Justice Charles Wells, who wrote:

“Without the ability to execute pre-injury releases, a parent may find that his or her minor child will not be able to participate in activities because the operators of the activities will not accept the financial exposure of the minor’s participation, regardless of whether the parent would decide that the benefit to the minor outweighed the risk of injury.

“I believe that it is fundamentally unfair to now declare a new public policy and then apply it to the defendants in this case. … The importance of this issue cannot be overstated because it affects so many youth activities and involves so much monetary exposure.”

The American Motorcyclist Association says the impact of the ruling may be to reduce or eliminate youth motorsports activities in Florida.

"The real issue here is the potential effect on the availability and pricing of liability insurance for activities in Florida involving minors," says Pete terHorst, AMA spokesperson.

"If insurance carriers start to incur greater losses for claims involving minors, these carriers may impose restrictions on activities involving minors, significantly raise premiums, or pull out of the market completely. This is one of the risk factors that the AMA must consider every year as it develops its programs and rules."

The case can be found online at: https://www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisio...8/sc07-1739.pdf[/

 
It sounds like the age of majority will be at the point of conception.

Isn't FL the state with the hanging chads and the Terri Schiavo fiasco?

I suppose that what will be required in the future is that both the child and the parent sign the waiver.

 
Isn't FL the state with the hanging chads and the Terri Schiavo fiasco?
True, true.

We're late comers as far as being an ass backward State.

Then again, you would have thought we would have done better with all the shining examples to our north. :glare:

 
Let's see. This could potentially close any place a kid needs a parent's signature to enter because of the insurance and liability problems for organizers. If upheld, there'd be no more:

1. School sports, especially those evil football and soccer programs.

2. After-school programs. Art class can be so dangerous.

3. Weekend or intramural sports.

4. Boy/Girl Scouting

5. Kids racing programs of any type.

6. Climbing walls, paintball, laser-tag, etc

I doubt this ruling stands.

 
I find the reasoning of the Florida Supreme Court very sensible and if one reads it carefully it really makes sense.

How often do parents sign such waivers because they are driven to see their child succeed and being on an ego trip that does not have the youngsters best interest in mind?

I remember how parents got all bent out of shape on baseball , soccer, football games; more so then the participating kids.

 
Most of the "children" I deal with are over the accepted age of majority, i.e., 21. Nevertheless, the next time I ask a group to sign waivers, I'm going to ask for both the participant AND the parent/guardian for anyone under 21.

If you let a minor race with only their own signature on a waiver, you are setting yourself up for a law suit for sure if something happens. I think the only safe approach for organizers and facilitators is to either STOP organizing, or to get both signatures.

 
According to my attorney in Ca a parent can't sign away rights of a minor child. Schools etc. will have you sign one but it will not stand up in court. They just hope by signing one you will not sue.

I suspect most waivers won't hold in court against a good attorney.

 
If upheld, there'd be no more:
1. School sports, especially those evil football and soccer programs.

2. After-school programs. Art class can be so dangerous.

3. Weekend or intramural sports.

4. Boy/Girl Scouting

5. Kids racing programs of any type.

6. Climbing walls, paintball, laser-tag, etc
You forgot:

1. School field trips.

2. Alternative sports, i.e., Little League, Pop Warner, etc.

3. Church or other organization's field trips/camping trips.

OTH, imagine how much money the school district might save not having to underwrite sports programs. Families might have to spend time together on activities rather than sending the kids off with someone else. :eek:

 
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