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UK police forces are ditching BMW's in favour of FJR's.

Cheaper & more reliable.

They even wave to me now. :)

Yeah...but how do they power all their electrics on that modest sized charging system?
Two battery system. At least that's how they do it Down Under. I don't know all the details but the Aussie police FJRs add a second battery under the seat. Sure would like to get a hold of one to check it out.
Adding a second battery would give them more electrical capacity only when the bike's engine isn't running. It wouldn't do anything about providing more power when it's running since the alternator is the power source at that time. The second battery actually represent an even heavier load on the anemic alternator since, once the battery becomes somewhat discharged through use, the alternator would have to provide the juice to charge it back up in addition to all the other normal (and abnormal) loads.

 
Thanks you Don 4 good pics and info, always like the captions to color the images up :)

So I'm going to play waterboy and stay on the sidelines for awhile. Almost automatically having to put a waterpump on a new bike doesn't make me wanna jump right in especially w that price tag, I guess I'm spoiled with the FJR and basically lube n filter maintenance.

I'm still going back to the dealer for a test ride but kinda hope I don't fall in love. Weird! I'm really wanting to say I have the better machine (for me) already parked in my garage but I guess we'll just have to see.

To be continued!

(or as you would maybe say) Ser continuado!

 
Thanks you Don 4 good pics and info, always like the captions to color the images up :)

So I'm going to play waterboy and stay on the sidelines for awhile. Almost automatically having to put a waterpump on a new bike doesn't make me wanna jump right in especially w that price tag, I guess I'm spoiled with the FJR and basically lube n filter maintenance.

I'm still going back to the dealer for a test ride but kinda hope I don't fall in love. Weird! I'm really wanting to say I have the better machine (for me) already parked in my garage but I guess we'll just have to see.

To be continued!

(or as you would maybe say) Ser continuado!
This is a good plan of action, particularly since I believe that where you live they have a phenomenom occuring known as 'Winter' coming on; really have no idea about this 'Winter' concept, I have only read about it! As I mentioned previously you are welcome to fly out to Phoenix and ride Gisele.

I plan to ride the "Baja Triangle" at Thanksgiving and you're invited, since this doesn't require a Mexican Vehicle Import Permit all we would have to do is insure both Lucy Liu and Gisele with a Seguridad Primavera policy to ride Baja California Norte. 1st night San Felipe crossing over at Mexicali, 2nd night at Ensenada which allows us to ride over Sierra Pedro Martir mountain range with its incredible twisties, then 3rd and last night at Tecate (we will tour the Tecate Brewery!) which allows us to ride the famous or infamous "La Rumorosa" Grade over to Sonoita where we would once again cross over into Estados Unidos.

In Gila Bend, Don, Greg Jane, and Barry were there. Then it was the long boring stretch on I-8 to Yuma where we met David. Some more boring I-8, then at least the Mountain Springs Grade is somewhat interesting. At the top of the hill, we hopped onto CA-94. This is a fun little road that twists through the boulders through some little farming towns on its way to Tecate and our border cross.

Got through the border with a quick inspection. The bad news was that the Banjercito office had closed down. Don needed to cancel his. We were told that the one at Algondones was also closed and in fact the nearest were Tijuana and Sonoita (on the road to Rocky Pt.). Hmmm..

From Tecate, we headed southwest for Ensenada. This is very scenic country, very reminicent of central California. There are lots of wineries in the area, interspersed in the valleys between the mountains. Most of the road was fun, except for some construction zones. There’s a reason that GS are so popular in Mexico.

By mid afternoon, we were decending into Ensenada’s downtown tourist area and our hotel. After a long ride, the pool was, err, let’s just say "refreshing" (cold!).

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Ensenada claims the 2nd biggest Mexican flag, It flies over their harbor where the cruise liners come to port.

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Because of the cruise boats, the downtown area is kept very nice, clean and bustling with shops, resturants and bars. It has somewhat of a European feel, with sidewalk dining.

Don wanted to start the evening at Hussong’s tavern, allegedly the oldest continuously operating bar in the Baja and favorite of Paul Newman.

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In front, there’s a guy sharpening knives, in case anybody wants to get into some Chingaso.

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Melanie made a new friend.

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For dinner, we ate at the resturant across from the hotel. The food was good, with very fresh seafood as you might expect. The drinks were flowing also. Here’s some shots of us before dinner.

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Here’s Greg commenting on a Margerita. Yes, this is an after dinner and many drinks shot.

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The bill ended up being some rather large number and there were rumors of $100 tips being passed around. Eventually, enough money was rounded up and we left to wander the streets with major buzzes, full bellies and empty wallets.

Greg is hamming it up with the art.

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Next morning, we rode over to La Bufadora (The Blowhole). It is a formation in the ocean cliffs that shoots water like a gieser when a wave crashes into shore. Being a tourist spot, the entrance is lined with shops and resturant/bars. The cruise ships send their folks over on busses.

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A look up the shopping street.

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We got the bikes parked and headed over to see the spray.

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Looks fecking Awesome! If no hassles from the cops/federales I want in!
There will be safety in numbers, this will be posted up to both www.fjrforum.com and to www.azbeemers.org We usually have at least ten folks that make this Baja ride.

I first rode into Mexico on my 1964 Norton Atlas 750 in October of 1968, I had to report for my enlistment in the US Army on the 23rd. Went a week south as far as the Norton would take me down the Baja Peninsula, then turned back to make it to Fort Ord, California for Basic Infantry Training and then Artillery Training; on to Germany.

Riding Mexico back then did not involve a care in the world, I would sleep on the beaches and stay with Mexican families along the way. Sadly, the times have changed!

When I returned to the hotel, one of the maids offered to wash my bike for $2. My bike hadn’t been washed in, ... err... since .. Well it’s been a while. I gave her $5 and ended up with a nice clean shiny bike. Don had his done also.

Then time for a little more shopping before dinner.

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I’m being eaten by a shark!

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Greg with a fruity drink.

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Don’s new girlfriend ! She’s hot.

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The next morning, we crossed the Baja over to San Filipe. Sorry, for some reason, I didn’t take many more pictures and now I wish I had.

Because the Baja is a series of mountains and valleys running north to south, the road across west to east was fun. Lots of twisties and an occastional grind of the floorboards on the big blue wing. We stopped for breakfast in Valle de la Trinidad. The local resturant had a Sunday buffet going. Lots of traditional recepies and all delicious. Lots of dirt bikers and off roaders in this area. It’s part of the Baja 1000 course. After filling up, we continued east and eventually crossed the last string of mountains. Before us is the Colorado river delta. The insides of the Grand Canyon are in there somewhere along with sand from most of the soutwest. Heading south, the delta turned into tide basins then turned into real ocean and then we arrived.

After checking in at the hotel, Don and Barry rode with Henry to visit his Tia, who has a beach house just south.

Melanie and I spent the afternoon on the beach. The water here is perfect this time of year, not too cold, not too bath watery. I chatted with some fishermen about what they were bringing in.

We wandered around the shops some, as the prices were much better here than Ensenada. Melanie has more metal and jewels around her wrists.

We had dinner at Don’s namesake resturant, Chuy’s. Nothing better then fish just plucked out of the ocean.

Monday morning, it was time to head home. We grabbed some breakfast at a place near the beach.

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On the ride back, the road skirts around the edge of the river delta. The scenery is unusual, with jagged mountains dropping into vast flat, featureless salt plains and mud flats. Part of the road is a dirt causeway, about 1/3 of which is normally covered with sand. We had to hang left to avoid the sand areas.

When the underground water turns from brackish to fresh, farming sprouts up and the next hour or so of the ride is through a farming wonderland. A lot of the crop was green onions and the air carried the aroma. Made me want to do some stir-fry chicken and green onions. After a minor detour, (Don - the GPS had it right !! ), we arrived in San Luis del Rio Colorado. Here we said goodby to David as his home in Yuma was just across the fence.

From there, it was a long boring ride down Mex-2 to Sonoita. The interesting thing here is to see our tax dollars at work on the border "fence". I put fence in quotes. At San Luis DC, the fence is a tall strong steel structure. As you head east, the fence gets shorter. And shorter. Eventually, it is only 3’ tall. I guess it is only intended to stop cars and quads. They catch the walkers by following their footprints. In some places, where the terrain is too tough, there is no fence at all.

At Sonoita, Don left to clear his Banjercito and the rest of us headed for the border. On advice of one of the locals, we lane split our way to the front of the line and go to the inspection area quickly. They were training a new dog and put some "fake" cocaine on Greg’s bike to work the dog. They asked me and I said "No way", as I don’t want the next dog to freak out over my bike six months from now.

After a burger at Ajo Dairy Queen, Melanie and I hit the road back home.

All in all, a great trip, great weather, no problems and lots of fun.
 
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I don't personally know HotRodZilla, but he does usually make good sense.
Hey Howie....On behalf of Redfishhunter, go fuck yourself with a huge black thermos. Magikmaker can hook you up.

Dayum man, I finally found someone here that likes me and listens to what I say. So you're gonna be your crusty old self and try to run him off. That's bullshit.

Besides, I figured that since both of you are into sea creatures, you'd have some kind of freakish salt-water related bond. Freak!!

 
CAUTION!! CREDIBILITY DISASTER AHEAD --

I don't personally know HotRodZilla, but he does usually make good sense.
Hey Howie....On behalf of Redfishhunter, go fuck yourself with a huge black thermos. Magikmaker can hook you up.

Dayum man, I finally found someone here that likes me and listens to what I say. So you're gonna be your crusty old self and try to run him off. That's bullshit.

Besides, I figured that since both of you are into sea creatures, you'd have some kind of freakish salt-water related bond. Freak!!
Without trying to turn this religious, I'm not trying to run him off. I'm just reminding him of the ancient saying

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CAUTION!! CREDIBILITY DISASTER AHEAD --

I don't personally know HotRodZilla, but he does usually make good sense.
Hey Howie....On behalf of Redfishhunter, go fuck yourself with a huge black thermos. Magikmaker can hook you up.

Dayum man, I finally found someone here that likes me and listens to what I say. So you're gonna be your crusty old self and try to run him off. That's bullshit.

Besides, I figured that since both of you are into sea creatures, you'd have some kind of freakish salt-water related bond. Freak!!
Without trying to turn this religious, I'm not trying to run him off. I'm just reminding him of the ancient saying

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How do you know my character is good to begin with? And even if it is how could you tell while I am caught up amongst you "sinners"? I have the damnedest time telling the good from the bad after just a few posts.

As far as me liking sea creatures that is all a BIG misunderstanding. Just because my wife looks like a whale does not mean I am into sea creatures (monsters).

 
Great discussion here about the FJR, BMW and Triumph!! :fans: :fans: :fans: :fans: :fans: :fans: :fans: :fans: :fans: :fans: :fans:

 
Well, I just learned from the BMWMOA forum that the K1600 is "cooking" rider's feet and legs. Seems to defeat the purpose of having a more comfortable bike if you are less comfortable than on your current bike.

 
Some are saying that but way more have come back with a "no not so" response. I have heard (a few) the same on our FJR's as well, there's always a few that think a bit of warmth is the end of the world but who knows right?. So I'm still test driving both the GT & GTL this Sat afternoon if the weather is nice.

 
Well, I just learned from the BMWMOA forum that the K1600 is "cooking" rider's feet and legs. Seems to defeat the purpose of having a more comfortable bike if you are less comfortable than on your current bike.
I've seen that worthless crapola on the MOA Forum before and it is a wad of bollocks. I know those crybabies from my 32 years of membership in MOA and half of them posting don't even own K16's; they are just spouting shit and they don't ride anywhere!

Those crabby fuckers are maybe Owners, they are not Riders. I live in Phoenix, Arizona which is the hottest spot in the Nation and my K1600GT is certainly not cooking my feet and legs. Bustanut joker and I leave here for Oregon tomorrow, I'll have him ride Gisele through Kingman and Las Vegas on our way to Beatty, Nevada tomorrow night and have him give his own report!

 
Well, I just learned from the BMWMOA forum that the K1600 is "cooking" rider's feet and legs. Seems to defeat the purpose of having a more comfortable bike if you are less comfortable than on your current bike.
There are a certain number of people that would bitch about any bike. Mostly they are just whiners who can't get as comfy on the bike as in their car. I hear the same shit on the other bike forums (V-strom, VFR and some others I've had)

Yeah, a motorcycle is a highly personalized form of transportation. You fit onto a motorcycle the same way you fit onto a bicycle. But with pedal bikes they come in varying frame sizes. Not so with motos, so we have to farkle them to fit. For most enthusiasts, that is a big part of the fun. I mean, how much fun would it be if you just ordered a bike, and it showed up and everything was already perfect? :rolleyes:

Hell, there are probably people out there that would bitch if you gave them free money. :glare:

If you have the scratch and the big Beemer gives you a woody, you'd have to be an idiot not to go for it. I'd persoanlly really like to see a new Trophy in the flesh and see what that is all about, 'cause I think if I was ever going to wear out my FJR someday I'd want the next bike to be more like that than the big K bike. Actually, I'd still really like to get onto a K1200RS,a s that seems like an awesome SPORTtouring bike. Too bad it grew so much in later versions.

 
For me, the K1600 hasn't grown on me yet. Everytime I see one it looks like one of those oversized fairinged scooters.

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