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I know many of you don't replace these, but I don't second guess Mother Yamaha on this issue and put a new one every time on all three locations.

I got to thinking about trying to locate another source for these; The cheapest I can find for the actual Yamaha versions is on fjrgoodies.com @ $1.07 each. My local dealer gets $1.94 and they give me %10 off that.

I thought that maybe these were available through sources like McMaster-Carr, but no, they don't offer M14 crush washers at all, and the ones they do are the one piece vs the Yamaha style two-piece. I can find lots of 1 piece style on the 'net including many on ebaymotors:

in aluminum: https://tinyurl.com/9aag53k

or copper: https://tinyurl.com/8akx8bg

But no 2 piece style - except I did find a Dorman washer that looks to be the same @ AdvanceAuto albeit at 3 times the cost of fjrgoodies:

https://tinyurl.com/9y68ywg

Now, before I get raked for this - I know that cost-wise, it's not a huge deal. I guess sometimes I have too much time on my hands and get curious because I know that Yamaha, and Dorman for that matter, get these from somewhere. Especially since I found the Dorman version, that tells me it's an off the shelf part, not something made special for Yamaha. My original thought was to buy a pack of 100 as I do put alot of miles on my bike and change the oil all the time, both engine and diff. It seems I'm always short one of those washers even after buying them a dozen at a time from my local dealer.

Any thoughts?

I did go back and search fjrforum; the threads I found all mainly argued the replace vs not; as I said before - I'm firmly in the "replace" camp, and I undertorque to 28 ft.lbs with a torque wrench. When I have to do an oil change on the road - like I did last month in Richland, WA, I bring an extra crush washer with me + ~.23 qt of Risalone, then buy the filter & T6 oil from whoever, and "guesstimate" the torque with my 3/8 ratchet for that one time. My belief is that those threads are - very - crucial to be not stripped and using new washers w/correct torque is important. Using a new washer is cheap insurance and being the cheap bastoid that I am, I'd like to get them cheaper! That's 3 cheaps in one sentence ya know!

As always, YMMV, IMHO, etc..............

 
The cheapest I can find for the actual Yamaha versions is on fjrgoodies.com @ $1.07 each. My local dealer gets $1.94 and they give me %10 off that.
The overly-anal-engineer type-OCD-FJR-syndrome is spreading everywhere...RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!! :blink:

Dude, whether they cost $1.07 or $1.54 or $2.00 is of no concern to me. I'll buy 2 or 3 from my local dealer along with a filter and some oil and I've never even concerned myself with such minor costs. I "torque" them with my standard socket wrench to where it "feels" tight. Never had a leak yet. Such things need not be so complicated and time consuming mental journeys.

This isn't NASA ya know.

 
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Try HERE. Alex doesn't have them listed on his site, so call him. I just got some filters and a bunch of crush washers from him. He's a small biz, one of us, and lives nearby so I buy from him whenever I can. His prices have always been better than others. Tell him I sent you.

 
The cheapest I can find for the actual Yamaha versions is on fjrgoodies.com @ $1.07 each. My local dealer gets $1.94 and they give me %10 off that.
The overly-anal-engineer type-OCD-FJR-syndrome is spreading everywhere...RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!! :blink:

Dude, whether they cost $1.07 or $1.54 or $2.00 is of no concern to me. I'll buy 2 or 3 from my local dealer along with a filter and some oil and I've never even concerned myself with such minor costs. I "torque" them with my standard socket wrench to where it "feels" tight. Never had a leak yet. Such things need not be so complicated and time consuming mental journeys.

This isn't NASA ya know.
What is this filter and oil thing that you speak of?

 
If you use copper and anneal them each time they are good for life. It takes about 30 seconds and you save the price of three washers each time.

 
I bought a 6 pak of them for 10 bucks shipped. TBH with ya however I do know of guys that use the old ones (at least once over) and never have any leakage. As said it's a small trivial $ amount so I just change it out ea time.

 
...however I do know of guys that use the old ones (at least once over) and never have any leakage...
I'm still on the original crush washers on my '07 - oilpan and rear drive. 78,000 miles and not a drop of oil has seeped out. One of these years, I'll get around to changing them.

Ross

 
If you use copper and anneal them each time they are good for life. It takes about 30 seconds and you save the price of three washers each time.
What Ray said.

Took my drain plug to Autozone for sizeing and they fixed me right up. Don't remember the price 'cept it was less than 2 bucks.

 
Ya got me thinking...

n since I do own a True Value Hardware store and I have a drawer asst. full of copper washers at my disposal? hmmmm :ph34r:

 
...however I do know of guys that use the old ones (at least once over) and never have any leakage...
I'm still on the original crush washers on my '07 - oilpan and rear drive. 78,000 miles and not a drop of oil has seeped out. One of these years, I'll get around to changing them.

Ross
Oilpan is on it's sixth oil change. Diff only 2

 
This isn't NASA ya know.
Funny you say that; I'm retired after 22+ yrs from KSC.

When we took stuff apart, we changed the seals. Always. I'm doing it here too!

As I said, I know many of you DO NOT CHANGE THESE OUT every time - great! Do it your way, but I'm changing them out!

LOL we can mull this over a beer or three at the upcoming CFO or EOM, both of which I'll be in attendance.

 
Based on the info you provided I found them for .59 (before shipping). Clicky.
Dang Skooter, thanks! I don't know how I missed this - I have an order building from them now mainly for my old F150 4wd, but I need a few more $$ to qualify for free shipping and also have a 20% coupon to apply (AG26).

If these work then that's the ticket I was looking for!

EDIT: after looking at this twice, not sure they are the 2 piece, they look like the 1 piece aluminum. I'll go ahead and put one on my order and see what I get.

 
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Per the Service Manual: replace (washer) if damaged. But it's always up to you. Personally, leak free since '04 (using same).

 
Ref: p/n 214-11198-01

I know many of you don't replace these, but I don't second guess Mother Yamaha on this issue and put a new one every time on all three locations.

OK, I give up. What's the third location????????

 
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