FJRF009.2: "Intermittent Ground Wire Connection"

[RaYzerman19]

Anyhoo, this is a SAFETY recall. You can pass on taking your FJR in for the recall now, but if you ever take your FJR in to a dealer for any kind of service your VIN will show that the SAFETY recall wasn't done. I don't believe you will get your FJR back until the recall harness is installed and I don't think the dealer has any choice in the matter.

So what you are saying is that I should remove my Brodie harness, put the original spiders back in place, have the recall work performed, then undo what the dealer did and re-install my Brodie harness?

Agree with Alan and Fred, the glass is half full, as well as the size of the glass being in question.....

Perhaps there is another option if you have the Brodie harness, unplug the S4 only, and restore it with OEM parts (nice shiny ones that look "undamaged"), let dealer put the new piece on, which is sounding like a Brodie fix, but for the S4 only, and let them button it up...... you can leave it, or revert back to the Brodie fix, either way should have you covered.

 

[networkguy]

I received my spider recall yesterday. Called Temecula Motorsports today and they said they received the recall bulletin and to bring the bike in for the recall. I asked if they had the parts in yet and NO was the answer. I was told they would tear the bike apart and see if I needed the replacement parts. If not, they would put the bike together and I could ride it home. If I needed the fix, they would keep the bike until the parts came in, leaving me without a ride. I said I would call back on a weekly bases to see if the parts came in and then bring the bike in for the fix.

But what got me was when the service mgr said they would put the part on only if it was needed. WTF, I was under the impression the fix goes on regardless if it was needed or not. :glare:

Here is my experience so far. I got the same message from Ride Now Powersports in Phoenix (too late for your input Skooter - but thanks anyhow). And when they took my bike apart, the harness was OK but they did not put the bike back together as promised. So, I have been without my 2006 FJR since last Friday. But the good news is that the "fix" is at the dealers (arrived this afternoon) and I will be back on the road tomorrow - worry free. If I wanted to go to WFO and it had not been cancelled, I would have been SOL. How willing are you to risk a failure?

I havent received my notice in the mail yet, but yesterday called Ride Now off Thunderbird. Ive bought a couple bikes from them and theyve done most of my work, and overall Im happy with them. The service guy I talked to hadnt heard about the recall, but I gave him my VIN, he put me on hold for about 10 mins, came back and said theyve ordered the part and theyll call me when it comes in to do the install. Very easy.

 

[08FJR4ME]

I just got a call from RideNow Powersports and they say the recall work is finished - on time and as promised. As to the quality, I guess I'll have to find out the hard way since I'm unlikely to remove the tank to check out the work. For sure, I'll be riding to Payson Saturday, and possibly to Prescott with Skooter and BeemerDon Friday (TBD). Just the facts as I know them.

ON TOPIC: Congratulations on RideNow taking good care of you and finishing your FJR recall work on time and as promised. They may now be a great Yamaha dealer!!

OFF TOPIC: Prescott Ride was today! Attended by Skooter, JetGrl, Enrique and myself. Didn't want to see you show up for this tomorrow. I did buy the BMW K1600GT!

Now I am jelous

BTW we here at the forum want a full ride report.

Dave

 

[beemerdons]

I just got a call from RideNow Powersports and they say the recall work is finished - on time and as promised. As to the quality, I guess I'll have to find out the hard way since I'm unlikely to remove the tank to check out the work. For sure, I'll be riding to Payson Saturday, and possibly to Prescott with Skooter and BeemerDon Friday (TBD). Just the facts as I know them.

ON TOPIC: Congratulations on RideNow taking good care of you and finishing your FJR recall work on time and as promised. They may now be a great Yamaha dealer!!

OFF TOPIC: Prescott Ride was today! Attended by Skooter, JetGrl, Enrique and myself. Didn't want to see you show up for this tomorrow. I did buy the BMW K1600GT!

Now I am jelous

BTW we here at the forum want a full ride report.

Dave

Dave, SkooterG shot a half dozen pics, I'll get them on a separate thread tomorrow; Thanks!

 

[SkooterG]

Dave, SkooterG shot a half dozen pics, I'll get them on a separate thread tomorrow; Thanks!

This is a recall thread. No off-topic posting por favor!

 

[John d]

Perhaps there is another option if you have the Brodie harness, unplug the S4 only, and restore it with OEM parts (nice shiny ones that look "undamaged"), let dealer put the new piece on, which is sounding like a Brodie fix, but for the S4 only, and let them button it up...... you can leave it, or revert back to the Brodie fix, either way should have you covered.

+1! If I bring mine in, that's what I'm doing.

 

[sgoat]

Just got my recall notice today and have scheduled an appointment (first available opening) for the 23rd of July. Service manager was very knowledgeable about the issue and said mine would be the first. I've got alot of confidence in my local dealer. Been doing buisness with the same bunch since 1966!

 

[SkooterG]

Anyhoo, this is a SAFETY recall. You can pass on taking your FJR in for the recall now, but if you ever take your FJR in to a dealer for any kind of service your VIN will show that the SAFETY recall wasn't done. I don't believe you will get your FJR back until the recall harness is installed and I don't think the dealer has any choice in the matter.

I'm not sure that is actually true. I know that I was able to get my bike back from one of the local stealerships even after they informed me that the TPS recall (also a safety recall) had not been done. I knew that I didn't want that particular dealerships service department touching my bike (it was just there for a state inspection), and eventually had it done at Hudson.

Fred, I totoally disagree. The TPS was NOT a recall. It was an internal Yamaha Technical Service Bulletin. NOT safety based. Nothin to do with NHTSA. Completely different animal than this actual recall. My guess is the overwhelming majority of dealerships will not release a bike once they find the recall is still outstanding.

And I disagree with your assertion that Yamaha's fixes are poorly engineered. While their igntion switch fix is not as robust as you anal-retentive types might like, I have not seen ONE SINGLE report of a failed igntion switch on their re-design.

Time will tell on their current ground spyder fix, but I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point.

 

[ionbeam]

...You can pass on taking your FJR in for the recall now...I don't believe you will get your FJR back until the recall harness is installed and I don't think the dealer has any choice in the matter.

I'm not sure that is actually true...

...My guess is the overwhelming majority of dealerships will not release a bike once they find the recall is still outstanding...And I disagre...that Yamaha's fixes are poorly engineered...Time will tell on their current ground spyder fix, but I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point.

And, hopefully most of us will be around long enough to witness what the final outcome will be. Geez, I almost want to put in a premptive2015 "I told ya so." :lol:

 

[Speedygg]

Looks like I might be the first in the pacific northwest to announce receipt of the recall notice...just got it today.

I've also got the Brodie Harness, so in no rush to get Yamaha's fix. Will wait to hear from some of the other locals before taking her in. Doing trip to california next week and have no worries with Brodie Harness installed.

I like the idea of disconnecting the S4 prior to bringing in. Fortunately I kept all the spider gizmos.

Thanks y'all for all the posts...its been extremely informative (for the most part).

 

[Roadstar]

Just recieved my letter in the mail (yeaaaaa !!!) owned 3 yamaha`s & all 3 with multible recalls (lucky me) I know it hooks to one spider plug, but did any of the dealers say anything about aftermarket accessories (like Fuze blocks) & other hard wired stuff. (just woundering)

 

[russperry]

Looks like I might be the first in the pacific northwest to announce receipt of the recall notice...just got it today.

I've also got the Brodie Harness, so in no rush to get Yamaha's fix. Will wait to hear from some of the other locals before taking her in. Doing trip to california next week and have no worries with Brodie Harness installed.

I like the idea of disconnecting the S4 prior to bringing in. Fortunately I kept all the spider gizmos.

Thanks y'all for all the posts...its been extremely informative (for the most part).

I'm with you Speedy - just got my recall notice today, and I have Brodie's harness (Brodie actually came to my house and installed it, being the nice guy he is) so am in no hurry to run into the delays or issues that seem to be part of being in the first bunch of recall fixes.

I'm not even sure I will EVER get the recall done, based on my admittedly unsophisticated review of Brodie's work. It seems very robust using heavy gauge wire, so I guess I don't really want to mess with something that sounds like a "bare minimum" type of fix.

Question - if and when resale time comes, do you think not having the recall done will be an issue? Probably be tough to explain to a newbie that "Brodie's fix is better than a factory recall", right?

 

[EMetz1300]

I bought my 2007 used last Fall and I got the recall letter today along with many others. The bike has never been to a local dealer and is not registered anywhere but the Wisconsin DMV. I am impressed.

 

[HIGHLANDER]

I'm not too happy about that and will have a discussion with the service supervisor tomorrow when he comes back.

Hope you guys saved your old spiders & caps ? This could get interesting........

This is exactly the kind of stuff we as a forum should keep working on, can help with, and can add positively.

I would ask that if you don't get a reasonable response from the supervisor (or in addition to)...that might be a good reason to call Cypress so they're aware of the situation. I'd go with something like, "I have bike that has had an issue many have known about for years, we did something because Yamaha was slow to respond, and now I'm pressured to put back stuff? Can't you work without the old spiders and caps or what can we do to get the bike fixed?"

Meanwhile, good point and hopefully some folks have saved them and can share if needed.

Well here's the recap of today.....

I called Cypess and spoke with the customer service rep, he wasn't too sympathetic to our plight as I explained it in detail ( I think it was a little over his head ) , so I got through to the secocnd line of Cypress to the "product specialist", explained the Brodie harness again, spoke about the fix, the spiders, etc for a while with her. The specialist wrote it all down, then put me on hold while she contacted the Yamaha employee who is involved directly in the recall with NHTSA, then got both my local Yamaha tech and manager on a three way call together and discussed the harness, connections etc. ( I was not permitted to listen in )After 20 minues it was decided the Brodie harness is NOT PERMITTED to be left in place as it was not part of the NHTSA testing and documentation procedures and MUST BE PULLED by the dealer. It cannot be left in place.

They alluded to the fact that if I wanted to reinstall it, it would not be installed by Yamaha, and they'd have no control over the installation and we'd be on our own with the results.

Luckily, I did find the spiders and caps I removed and delivered them to the tech. My harness installs tomorrow.

 

[Woketman]

Did you speak with Mitch? He was one of the Cypress techs I spoke to. I believe he was in Georgia. He was a complete A__hole!

 

[HIGHLANDER]

No, it was not Mitch.

I was pretty impressed with the product specialist , she did seem concerned and wanted to resolve the issue so that it would be documented properly, so their response in the future would have some pre-existing basis for correct Cypress technical response. I did tell her there were probably over 200 Brodie harnesses installed and she better be prepped for some incoming phone calls !

 

[road runner]

First off I'd like to say opinions are like aholes, well you know the rest so take this with a grain of salt.

I think anyone who gets a recall notice should absolutely get the recall done.

I also think Yamaha's fix will be pretty good at fixing the problem, because I think it is an overload issue, and not a corrosion issue. My fix retains all the spiders, and to date I've had no complaints or spider failures from corrosion or anything else, and I'm sure Brodie's have worked well also.

Hell, I rode my 07 600 mile in the rain and the next day the bike wouldn't start in gear. I had to clean and grease the clutch switch, and now it's fine. Maybe I should be looking for a recall on that now too. They should make it waterproof. Just kidding. My point is that after a few years of riding in all kinds of weather you're going to have some issues once in a while. Now that the clutch switch failed once I will be cleaning and greasing it once a year as routine maintenance. Same should go for the spiders. Clean and grease them once a year or every 2 years after the fix and I think they will be fine. Do you wait for your brakes to fail before changing the brake fluid ? Or wait for the engine to fail before changing the oil ? Well you get my point. I suppose Yamaha should add spider cleaning in the maintenance schedule, then it would be acceptable.

When I get my recall notice I'll schedule an appointment when they have the parts, drop the bike off in the morning, and pick it up that afternoon with the Yamaha fix installed. I will not tell them about my overload harnesses, and they won't know they're in there, because you can't see them by lifting the tank to do the Yamaha fix. And my spiders are perfect so they won't have to change the engine harness. It's not that I want to lie to the dealer, but I don't want to get into an argument with someone who may or may not know what I know, and I understand it may also be a liability issue. When it's all done I'll have my fix and Yamaha's fix installed so I'll have a very grounded Bike.

 

[Speedygg]

Not to get too anal about this, but I gotta ask:

If I was to bring my bike into the shop with the Brodie harness pre-installed, will yamaha take the brodie harness off at their expense? Or will they be charging me to remove an unapproved third party fix?

My assumption is that the techies are supposed to inspect the S4. However if the Brodie is in place, then they have to do extra work to remove it and install the spider clips.

 

[2007 FJR]

I got my recall notice yesterday (July 13th) and I called the local dealer where I purchased the bike. They want me to bring the bike in so they can inspect it then order the parts needed to repair. They told me it would stay at the dealer for a week. :blink: After reading the posts here I think it would be better to schedule an appointment when they have some replacement parts available. Maybe I could pick it up the same day. :yahoo:

 

[JimNtexas]

I got my recall letter. Since I have Art's fan harness I can afford to wait a few weeks so other Central Texas owners can be the pioneers. You know how to tell a pioneer don't you?

They are the ones with arrows in their backs.

A couple of weeks ago I took my Ford Explorer in for a cruise control recall. The service writer installed it, it was just like Art's harness, a jumper in line with an existing connector and a wire to ground. Took him two minutes.