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My 05 FJR suspension...IMO...sucked! So I put Wilbers springs and shock on it and it became a dream for me. My 06 is markedly better....but still in need of improvement. So....here I go again....I hauled my bike to Woodstock, GA to Traxxion Dynamics where it became this week's project. They hadnt seen an 06 yet and are furiously tearing into it to analyze and measure all of the suspension parts.

Curiously, they found that - even at 2100 miles- the front seals were deteriorating and found metal in the oil. ..so already they need to be replaced!

I asked Lee Spitler to write up what they have found so far for the FJR forum and he said he would after they have completed their analysis. He also commented that the rear shock dimensions were the same as the 05 but it looked like the spring was stiffer. They are supposedly doing a design for a Penske rear shock for the 06.

Film at 11 but I am excited about getting it back and thrashing it a little. If they can commandeer one of the Penske shocks from another 06 FJR customer they will fit it and I will get it this weekend.

The next report I will post will be their professional analysis.

Ride Safe,

Ron

 
He also commented that the rear shock dimensions were the same as the 05 but it looked like the spring was stiffer.
That is exactly correct, the '06 OEM rear shock is stiffer than the '04/'05 models (the latter two were 15% stiffer than the significantly undersprung '03 model).

You will love your new Traxxion Dynamic AK-20 Cartridges. The lierally transform the Blackbird when I installed them last Spring.... they made a massive, MASSIVE improvement.

 
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Looking forward to hearing your report. Traxxion has a great reputation and will be one of the first mods on my FJR. My bike is in but, the MSO has not arrived yet, so my bank will not release the funds. One more week!

 
Looking forward to hearing your report. Traxxion has a great reputation and will be one of the first mods on my FJR. My bike is in but, the MSO has not arrived yet, so my bank will not release the funds. One more week!
Hey copper, put the bike on a credit card and go riding then pay the CC w/ money from the bank.

 
My 05 FJR suspension...IMO...sucked! So I put Wilbers springs and shock on it and it became a dream for me. My 06 is markedly better....but still in need of improvement. So....here I go again....I hauled my bike to Woodstock, GA to Traxxion Dynamics where it became this week's project. They hadnt seen an 06 yet and are furiously tearing into it to analyze and measure all of the suspension parts.Curiously, they found that - even at 2100 miles- the front seals were deteriorating and found metal in the oil. ..so already they need to be replaced!

I asked Lee Spitler to write up what they have found so far for the FJR forum and he said he would after they have completed their analysis. He also commented that the rear shock dimensions were the same as the 05 but it looked like the spring was stiffer. They are supposedly doing a design for a Penske rear shock for the 06.

Film at 11 but I am excited about getting it back and thrashing it a little. If they can commandeer one of the Penske shocks from another 06 FJR customer they will fit it and I will get it this weekend.

The next report I will post will be their professional analysis.

Ride Safe,

Ron
Hi Ron and FJR owners

I just came across this thread and felt some clarification and information sharing was in order. To eliminate any confusion - the fork seals were fine however, the 4 lower bushings were loaded up with aluminum metal fragments. Our lead tech and I discussed it in depth. The conclusion was poor quality parts or poor cleaning of the fork legs and other internal parts between manufacturing/machining and assembly. We've not seen this on a bike with so few miles on the clock. We replaced two of the bushings at our cost since they were damaged during disassembly. The other two lower bushings were cleaned and all of the tiny metal fragments were picked out of the Teflon coating on the bushings. Something the '06 owners need to be aware of is it's quite possible that at least two of the lower bushings would probably always be destroyed during a simple fork seal replacement just because of Soqi's design and how the forks are disassembled for inspection and fork seal replacement. Why they decided to use 4 lower bushings (2 in each leg) is beyond us. Extreme bushing wear has not been a problem on other far heavier bikes unless they never had any maintenance done on the forks.

The fork cartridge dimensions are identical to the Gen1 items save for the location of the external top-out springs. That was nice to know because we have an application for the '06 models ready to go straight off the shelf. No further R&D (machining of new parts) is necessary. :)

We tested the rear shock after measuring the physical dimensions of it. The twin spring setup that I reported on for my '05 FJR last December has changed in spring rate only. The lower longer spring (used on the hard setting) is the same rate, but the shorter stiffer spring has an 1800 lb/inch rating. This didn't make much sense to us because it would only make the soft setting different yet not the hard setting since the soft/hard lever is just a simple lock-out device and not a "preload" adjuster.

The swingarm, linkage and relay arm is substantially different compared to the Gen1 FJR. The swingarm is 30mm longer from pivot center to the axle center on the '06. The dogbones are also 30mm longer. The relay arm is geometrically different too and it appears they did this in order to change the progression rate during rear suspension compression.

The final bit of R&D will be completed today for the rear Penske shock. We've got the remote resi location mounting point, fitting types and hose length completed. The only remaining task is testing for ideal spring rate.

Stay tuned for the final details. :)

 
Lee, thanks for that update. Your shop was very very impressive as was your staff. Thanks for clarifying...and I am sure there are FJR'ers out there waiting for your final report.

Ron

 
Ron do you have a final cost on this new suspension setup?

Are the front springs being replaced or are you getting new cartridges?

 
Ron do you have a final cost on this new suspension setup?Are the front springs being replaced or are you getting new cartridges?
Tom, I just brought it home. I was only able to put about twenty miles on it before I left Georgia but it was a major improvement. It is much firmer than stock but it actually soaks up the bumps better than the softer stock suspension. I need to take it out tomorrow and thrash it a little.

One thing I really noticed.....when I turned or leaned my stock 06....I wasnt quite sure what the front end was doing...it seemed "slow" to react to the rider....I dont know how else to describe this...my BMW LT with Wilbers plants beautifully in a turn almost "psychically" following my wishes....the FJR didnt do that....now it does. I only had some on ramp sweepers to test it on today but it does feel like an "ultra tourer" now.

Lee Spitler...."sportryder" on this forum ...took a bunch of Pix and I asked him to post his final analysis and pix of the installation.

It isnt cheap...but I would do it again...this bike deserves a suspension like this....The front cartridges are now Traxxion Dynamics AK 20's and the rear shock is a Penske. Lee can address costs....

Ride Safe

Ron

 
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I would post pictures of the 8981 Penske shock installed on Ron's '06 FJR if I had a location to host them. Is there someone here who could host them? Warchild possibly? Let me know and I'll send them.

Since 98 percent of our testing for the '06 FJR1300 is now complete, we need only to wait on an extended ride report from Ron before deciding the best spring rates for the front and rear suspension. From my brief and limited test rides of his '06, I agree with his initial impressions. He and I weigh about the same with me being 10 lbs heavier at 215 out of the shower.

To the details: I apologize to the board Mods if this appears as an advertisement. It's not my intention to do that but the "costs" were asked of Ron and he passed that question over to me.

Retail cost of the Penske 8981 shock is $794.95. We (Traxxion Dynamics) sell it for that price minus 5% as our everyday price. We charge $75 to R&R the shock on most bikes when they ride in to our shop for their upgrades.

Retail cost of the AK-20 cartridge kit is $999.95. The kit includes the AK-20 cartridges completely assembled, fork springs, fork spring buffer kit, precut spacers, buffer/spring washers, AK-20 cartridge holding tool, 2 liters of Maxima Synthetic Racing 125/150 7wt Fork Oil, installation instructions complete with recommended starting settings for your weight and riding needs. We do not include written OEM cartridge removal instructions for the DIY owners. We figure that information can be found in the manufacturer's model specific service manual. For individuals not wishing to DIY, our price for installation of the kit in a set of forks is $150. For ride in customers, there is an additional charge of $75 to R&R the front suspension. We offer tech support for all of our customers in the event of problems during DIY installations, suspension setup or anything related to our products.

Spring rates:

In the front forks, we use our 1.10 kg/mm OMNI straight rate springs for riders weighing 200+ and typically ride in a more "sporting" fashion. For riders weighing less and wanting a softer ride, we may select 1.05 kg/mm springs.

On the rear shock, we used an 850 lb/inch spring. For riders weighing less that rarely ride 2-up with less gear in the bags and no tail trunk, we may go with an 800 or possibly a 750. It depends on the needs of the rider, riding style, rider/passenger weights and typical loads carried.

Rear suspension analysis:

The swingarm and dogbones are each 30mm longer than the Gen1 FJR1300. The '06 relay arm is shaped differently than the Gen1 item. The OEM shock is the same size physically using the same spring rate for the longer spring yet the short spring is 400 lb/inch stiffer. The hard/soft lever is not a preload adjuster as I have already mentioned in my report written last December when I tested my own '05 FJR shock/springs. When using the soft setting, both springs are in series and when we tested them in this configuration last December, the combined rate was approximately 440 lb/inch. On the hard setting, the short much stiffer spring was locked out (removed from the in-series configuration) so the effective spring rate was the single longer spring. It tested out at 680 lb/inch on the '06 FJR. This is nearly identical to what we tested the long spring to be last December. What does this mean for the '06??? IMO, Yamaha intended to make the soft setting initially stiffer with their "in-series" spring rate choice. Why??? Probably because the swingarm is longer and would have more leverage on the shock with no other changes made. Now, what about the use of a different relay arm? A quick visual comparison between the Gen1 and Gen2 FJR shows the distance between the dogbone attachment at the relay arm and the frame pivot point is greater on the Gen1 bike. Hmmmmm, what does that mean for the '06? I can only speculate at this point without removing relay arms from a Gen1 and Gen2 and measuring pivot centers distances. I have a sneaky suspicion they made all of these changes to the rear suspension for two or three reasons. They felt they needed to slightly firm up the soft settings due to the longer swingarm. They also wanted to move a little bit more weight towards the front wheel (use of the longer swingarm) to help the handling when loaded up with passenger, gear and tail trunk. And lastly, they wanted to provide slightly more control of the anti-squat "feature" of the shaft drive design. A shaft drive motorcycle's typical behavior is to extend the rear suspension during acceleration and squat during decel. It does that because the pinion gear tries to climb up the ring gear during accel and the inverse is happening during decel. With a longer swingarm, you should have less chassis lift during accel and less squat during decel. The geometry changes to the relay arm were done primarily to offset the longer swingarm AND use the same OEM shock installed on the Gen1 FJR. However, the soft setting on the rear suspension was totally inadequate for supporting the bike alone no matter how it was used. Quite a few things going on here.

Anyways, to sum this all up. The suspension is better straight out of the box on the '06 FJR vs. the Gen1 FJR. There is an outstanding shock available from Penske right now although a mounting bracket is not in full production for the remote resi. I need to get my prototype design of it approved by Max and possibly into production at our machine shop. Ron can now say he has the very first one in the entire world. :) We also have product available ready to go for the '06 front forks.

I sure hope this very lengthy post was beneficial to the group. Thanks Ron for letting us use your '06 for the week. :)

Cheers!

 
Lee helped me dial in my FZ perfectly earlier this year, his springs and a Penske 8981.

I have the 8981 on my '05 with the 825 lb. spring and will be doing the AK-20's soon.

I think the shipping and shop time charge is a bargain considering the polishing and speciality tools they use, you get back a properly sprung stiction free unit ready to install.

If interest in this cartridge grows, perhaps Max could do a group buy. Hint hint.

 
Lee helped me dial in my FZ perfectly earlier this year, his springs and a Penske 8981.I have the 8981 on my '05 with the 825 lb. spring and will be doing the AK-20's soon.

I think the shipping and shop time charge is a bargain considering the polishing and speciality tools they use, you get back a properly sprung stiction free unit ready to install.

If interest in this cartridge grows, perhaps Max could do a group buy. Hint hint.
Thanks for the kind words Hotboot!

It's possible a group buy would come up if enough interest was shown by FJR owners. The AK-20 "system" has become immensely popular and has had our entire shop fervishly working to ensure parts are manufactured, inspected, sent to our anodizers for coating and returned so they are available to be assembled for customer orders. Since February 2005 we've sold approximately 500 complete kits with close to 120 kits just for Gold Wing GL1800 owners. They have become THE cartridge kit to install in racebikes and streetbikes of all types and brands. Their cost is much lower than any of the competing brands and they are modular in design and construction. This last feature enables them to be easily ported over to a different set of forks by retrofitting them with the appropriate parts. This state of the art "bullet proof" cartridge kit should not wear out before the motorcycle does. It provides superb damping performance that should not change over time due to the hard coat anodizing of all aluminum parts including the cartridge rod and internal cartridge body wall surface. The internal bore dimensions are precision honed to a tolerance of < .0005" throughout the length of the cartridge body. OEM factory tolerance is .003" or less. OEM cartridges do not have their internal bore surface hard coat anodized so they wear and damping rates are effected over time and lack of fork maintenance. I could go on and on regarding the details of these cartridge kits since I've been envolved with them from day 1. Our entire team at Traxxion Dynamics is very proud of this product and how it has changed the riding pleasure/performance for hundreds of motorcycle owners all over the world. Matching this fork kit with a high quality Penske racing shock will amaze you and you'll be wondering why you didn't upgrade your suspension earlier than you did.

I have a saying at the shop when I speak with many customers. Usually I bring it up because owners/riders feel their OEM suspension is lacking. Their motorcycle pitches fore and aft considerably. It bottoms out over bumps. Their motorcycle steers slow and they have to adjust their suspension for every different type of ride they go on. They are generally unhappy with the handling performance and ride but accept it the way it is and learn to ride around it or the bumps in the road. Sometimes, they just don't know what to do about it and I let them know it's quite a difficult task to make a street bike ride and handle well with the pavement surface conditions so different during their street riding. Much of it is caused by insufficient suspension travel. Most street bikes have 5" or less total travel in their forks and 4.5" or less rear wheel travel. Their motorcycle when supporting just it's own weight uses up half of the total travel. Add the rider and a passenger and there is even less travel available for soaking up bumps. I tell them we can help but they need to realize that unless they ride a motorcycle with long travel suspension like a motocrosser, they can only expect some of the bumps to be completely absorbed. I follow that up with my saying and it goes something like this: "If you can reduce the bump energy transmitted through the chassis and to the rider by 90% during 75% of the time while street riding then you've done an outstanding job as a suspension specialist working with most normal street bikes." Selecting the correct springs and then using quality damping units will allow your suspension to soak up a wider range of bumps. The final result is a motorcycle that rides smoother and handles better. :thumbsup:

I've emailed pictures of the Penske 8981 shock mounted up on Ron's '06 fJR to slapnpop so hopefully he'll be able to get them posted in this thread.

 
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MORE INITIAL IMPRESSIONS:

You don't know how hard it is to find twisties in Central Fl...lol. I have to tell all that the change in my 06 is one step past remarkable. I wasnt able to find a good run with turns but I was able to "smack it around" a little.

I live in a horse farm area and I have about a half mile of sand roads before I get to some awful ashpalt roads that are patched and full of holes. The cartridge soaks up this awful stuff as though I was on the freeway...ok, slight exaggeration...but not much. I could hardly believe how smooth the bike was and how much control I had on this ragged road.

Hard stops were much more under control as there was considerably less "dive". Again, I was able to do a little hard cornering but not much side to side stuff. The front end is rock solid and much more predictable in a turn.

My '05 had Wilbers shock and springs and I was very happy with that setup....I am thrilled with this setup...I believe the cartridge may have made a big difference. Subjective I know....

All in All Lee, I gotta say....AWESOME. And, as Lee said, this is not a commercial...(I did pay for mine) In addition, Lee's shop sells an excellent DVD on motorcycle suspension entitled, "Suspension for Mortals" by Traxxion Dynamics owner, Max McAlister.

 
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Great write up. Timely, too.

Just when I thought I knew what I was going to do to the suspension on my '06, along comes your post. Thanks for all the information.

 
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